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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 08:37 AM
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The Temerity Of A Kiss - Black Cat raid of 1966, celebrate this New Year's Eve with a radical act.
How far we have come in 40 years - how far we still have to travel



It all began exactly forty years ago this New Year’s Eve, on Sunset Blvd., in the Silverlake neighborhood of Los Angeles, in a small bar called the Black Cat. There were some sixty or seventy patrons gathered during those final moments of 1966, counting down the last few seconds to midnight. Couples gathered and stood next to each other, and as the countdown approached zero, they leaned into one other, and, amid the shouts of “Happy New Year!” and the opening strands of Auld Lang Syne, they did something all couples do all around the world. They kissed.

And immediately at least six plainclothes officers who had infiltrated the gay bar began viciously beating and arresting the kissing offenders. As the melee widened, several people tried to escape to the nearby New Faces bar. Undercover officers followed and raided that bar as well. One of the New Faces workers was beaten so badly by police that they cracked a rib, fractured his skull and ruptured his spleen.

Six Black Cat kissers were tried and convicted of “lewd or dissolute conduct” in a public place, conduct that consisted of male couples hugging and kissing. According to one police report, one couple had “kissed on the mouth for three to five seconds.” Apparently, three to five seconds are what constituted “lewd or dissolute conduct” among the LAPD.

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In a society where heterosexual couples can kiss wherever they please and lesbians kissing is considered “hot”, a kiss is still a very radical act when that kiss is shared between two men. Critics point to the popularity of Will & Grace as evidence that gay men were accepted, but long-suffering Will Truman rarely had a boyfriend. And when he finally got one, he was never allowed to kiss him on the lips. A few years ago, Oliver Stone put Alexander the Great in bed naked with Hephaistion after they expressed their undying love for each other. But even though Stone’s reputation is supposedly built on his bold interpretations of history, he chickened out and only let Alexander share his kiss with Olympia in a love scene that was more a struggle for dominance than an expression of love. And while Ennis Del Mar and Jack Tripp were finally allowed to kiss each other in the remotest reaches of Brokeback Mountain where nobody could see them, all of that kissing still came to an end some twenty-five years ago with Jack’s brutal murder.

Forty years after the Black Cat raid, men still cannot be seen kissing each other, at least not without one of them dying.

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 09:25 AM
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1. Ricky Bobby kissed that French feller at the end of Talledega Nights
And he's a NASCAR Dad!
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KKKarl is an idiot Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 09:37 AM
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2. ..
It obviously has to do with the society we live in. In many European countries movies & TV programs with sexual scenes are common place in the US it is violence that take the lead in movies. Average Americans do not want to see more sex & average Europeans do not what to see more violence. The average American claims strong religious beliefs in Christianity the average European claims no religion. Religion always seems to bring out the negative in a society & creates more violence. This is essentially the reason why Americans cannot accept 2 men kissing even in this day & age.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 10:58 AM
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3. Uh oh
Several Christian denominations in the Pietist and Anabaptist traditions have practiced the Holy Kiss for centuries! Yep, for some reason man-to-man kisses just set some of the 'phobes off.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 07:27 PM
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4. Generally it's jealosy, that we can act on our feelings, and they have
to keep bottling theirs up.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:23 AM
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5. In a lot of places Gay bars were still raided in the 90s
When I was living in SoCal in the early '90s you had to be really careful in the Silverlake bars. The LA cops used to pull all kinds of crap on people. I've heard it's better now, but that wasn't that long ago. I'd bet good money that in other, less progressive places, it's still going on.
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