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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:11 PM
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It's not a quagmire, not a quagmire, not a quagmire... It's, it's...
Korea!

The RW redirection spin machine has come up with yet another framing for the Iraq fiasco.

Ignoring the reality that Iraq has become a regional insurgency, with shadow factions, competing interests, shifting alliances, and pockets of influence - all further fueled by our occupation - Administration front men have come up with a new, less improved version of Iraq.

It's just like Korea.

The disconnect is mind boggling.

Someone call the UN. Enough is enough.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/01/korea-model

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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:13 PM
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1. If Iraq is like Korea, does that mean we'll still have troops there in 50 years?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:29 PM
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2. Seems to be the latest spin. I don't know who's calling the shots in the Administration,
(they seem as fractured as Iraq), but this latest re framing of our presence is just plain over the top.

I mean, *even* if one would be inclined to support the idea, there are no clear demarcation lines between the good guys and the bad guys. There is no DMZ. There is no "line" to hold except the latest PR line from the Administration.

This has gone from the disastrously and deadly attempt to forge a purely idealogical foreign policy at the end of a gun, with the civilian groundwork laid by the usual inept Republican party loyalists, to a persistent refusal to see the reality at hand.

(aside) I favor a 911 call to the UN from interested parties. i.e. unaligned UN members, the EU (?), the Arab states (?).



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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:08 PM
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3. Want to f**king bet?
Definitions of QUAGMIRE on the Web:

"1: soft miry land that shakes or yields under the foot 2: a difficult, precarious, or entrapping position: PREDICAMENT"
www.turning-pages.com/xf101/xf101_glossary.htm

mire: a soft wet area of low-lying land that sinks underfoot
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

A quagmire (from "quake" + "mire") is, literally, shaky, miry ground; as a political term used to describe a foreign military campaign in which there is either no foreseeable possibility of victory or the objectives are unclearly defined, and at the same time no clear exit strategy has been formulated in the absence of victory. The military campaign is likened to a kind of swamp or marsh in which the warring nation is unable to remove itself.
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:57 PM
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4. It's a disaster. A quagmire is benign in comparison. eom
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