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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:14 PM Original message |
CNN Re-running Dem Debate from Last Week...Hillary says I READ IT ALL and voted for War? |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. As usual, hillary is shaving the truth. liar liar |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. If you read the transcript, she didn't claim to have read it all |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Facts mean very little... |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. here's the relevant excerpt from the transcript ... |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. So she never said "I read it all" as the OP states |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. that is correct HOWEVER ... |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Oh, I was just disputing the OP |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. and i was just pointing out that |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 01:45 AM Response to Reply #12 |
37. Agreed she didn't read it. |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. No one on her staff had a security clearance to get the NEI! |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. everyone recieved the 25 page unclassified NIE. N/T |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 05:20 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Hillary had no one on her staff with the security clearance to read the classified NIE! |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #31 |
49. The declassified NIE was most deceptive |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. You're absolutely right. |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. But if no one on Hillary's staff had a security clearance, how could she be briefed on it? |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. She may have been briefed on it by people who weren't on her staff |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. So only Senators who didn't read the NIE and voted FOR the resolution |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. happy to agree with that point. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. And she didn't say... |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
55. maybe it depends on what the meaning of briefed is.... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Okay...Thanks for the Transcript to Clarify this...realize that I was a viewer "tuning in" |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. and you ... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. What I'm thinking is that some Dems On Intell Committee say they didn't get the REAL info...yet |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. all good points ... |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Oh yes . . . |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. What I hear you say is what worries me. How many Dems agree with Doctrine of Pre-Emtive Strike? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 08:05 AM Response to Reply #23 |
43. The Bush Doctrine is *not* preemptive war |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. perhaps "preventive war" is an oxymoron |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. But there is an important difference |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. the pathetic defenses of voting "Yes" on the IWR |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. It's a very serious matter, even dire |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 07:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
42. The Intelligence Committee certainly did have the NIE |
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King Coal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #14 |
45. Hillary doesn't do dishes and she has no cats, so she should |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. It's okay, everybody makes mistakes |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. It was too late to edit...but hopefully folks will read the thread...and if not |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Thanks for posting that! It seems that all those against Hillary eliminate the |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. those against Hillary eliminate the pertinent info ????? |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. NOT YOU! I'm talking about all the people who just say "She voted for the war so I hate her!" |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. "let the inspectors check and settle it once and for all!" ? |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. that is bs.... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. That's her baggage. Having watched up close 8 yrs of Reps trying to tie Bubba's hands... |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Exactly. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. "He would have gone to war anyway. With or without the IWR." |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. There is another possibility of course. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Yes there are other possibilities. I was trying to work with as many |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I hope I have shown that there were other choices besides the three |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 12:08 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. As I have already said . . . |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 06:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Look, you stated a premise in a typical "logical" format. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
59. If the flaw you refer to is that I didn't state all of the different |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 12:31 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I should have made a different word choice: these three possibilities |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
24. "This is a blank check," he said. |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-10-07 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
30. Information has been posted over and over and over and over and over and over and over |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 06:35 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. playing the sex card |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
36. give her a break |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 05:55 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Making a political decision |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
58. Don't need "balls" to "make the right choice." nt |
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Zandor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
46. She didn't say "I READ IT ALL" or that she "voted for War" |
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dave123williams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
48. Right, but LeShow is reporting that she DIDN'T bother to read the NIE. |
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IA_Seth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-11-07 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
51. Is not reading it and voting for it any better? |
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