Hillary's Macaca Moment

"I can certainly run for the Senate seat in Punjab and win easily"

She's the one who made clear that she had ties to India that made her quite popular there.

Is she now trying to hide her ties to the Indian community? Is she ashamed? Doesn't that make her the racist?


'Such "oppo" pieces are usually sent by campaigns with the disclaimer of "off the record" or "not for attribution," so Mr. Obama would not be linked to it. At least some copies of this document contained no such disclaimer.'

http://www.latestpolitics.com/blog/2007/06/obama-oppo-targets-hillarys-india.html

EVERYBODY SENDS OUT OPPO HIT PIECES

I find it very interesting to see Obama supporters giving up the charade of the Obama campaign practicing a "different kind of politics" so quickly...

specially when their polling numbers are going down.

But I never thought I would see a leading Dem candidate for president resort to race-baiting. :sad:

The gas station comment, Senator Tomato, I know there's another recent comment she had to apologize for. How can it be the Obama campaigns fault that Hillary says all this stuff?

She wasn't talking about ties to India but rather her strong record of support for Indian-Americans. HRC represents perhaps the most diverse state in the nation. She stands up for Indian-Americans just like she does for Italian-Americans, Jewish-Americans, Greek-Americans, etc.

Does she not support Palestinian Americans? Would she say she could be elected Senator of Palestine? No?? Oh, then she must not be talking about something else when she refers to Punjab.

The Clintons at least have a record of seeking peace in Israel-Palestine. The Obama track record on the matter consists of blaming the Palestinians for all their problems, a right-wing neocon frame... ;)

Would HRC say she could get elected in Israel, Italy, Greece, etc.? She could make the same point given her record.

==Oh, then she must not be talking about something else when she refers to Punjab.==

In order to believe that you must believe that HRC hates America and wants to send all our jobs overseas. You also have to ignore that state she represents and her strong record on Indian-Americans. What is Obama's record on Indian-Americans?

That's the entire point of the background info. The Clintons are globalizers.

But the backhanded way you've brought this up? Slime, pure slime. You aren't interested in her positions, only the smear.

And not one word about how Obama will create and protect American jobs. Not from you.

Obama's supporters will destroy him.

out against Obama on DU for weeks.

They're the ones who chose to spin a statement about Hillary's ties to India into a racial hoopla over HER Punjab joke. :crazy:

The point was twofold: 1) Take advantage of racism. This is classic, Obama clearly is well-versed in the "old politics" and the politics of division, er, "unity". By implying his opponent is in the pocket of an ethnic group he hopes to capitalize on racist feelings toward that group. 2) To paint HRC as an advocate of outsourcing (while hoping that his cult of personality will prevent people from looking at his actual platform and record)

Smearing Obama because you think it will help Edwards.

You know, as Obama himself would be outraged if a candidate made an appeal to anti-black racism. Obama should be the last candidate to appeal to racism.

You are a Kerry supporter. Kerry, who is not a political neophyte, has never used racism to further his political ambitions during his long career of public service. Obama lasted barely 2 years in primetime before resorting to Willie Horton-style politics... :eyes:

Like she did with her "no black America" spin?? Like she did with Obama "not being black enough" garbage. She's the one that does this.

Listen. Edwards isn't going to win. If you're choosing Hillary over Obama, that's fine. But know beyond a shadow of a doubt that when you bash Obama you're guaranteeing a Hillary win.

It is ironic to see a Kerry supporter write-off Edwards this early. Kerry was tied with Sharpton in the national polls in November of 2003 and was in the single digits before Iowa. How did that turn out? The lesson from Kerry's run is that it isn't over until it's over!

That's a disgusting, specious reason to vote for anyone.

We are voting for OUR CHOICE to lead the nation. Your choice. MY choice. If other people see what I see, my candidate will win the nomination. If not, it's a damn good slate and I'll cope with who I get.

And I won't go around slurring and slamming to distort the choice available. "Macaca moment" is a sick, deliberate attempt to make Hillary racist by linking her to what SOMEONE ELSE SAID. It's sleazy. And the more you repeat it, the sleazier it gets. If your candidate can't win without this, eewwwww.

calling him racist on this is just bs. and you are doing it because you think it would help Edwards. fucking pathetic.

were Democrats appealing to racism when they opposed the port security deal in the UAE ?

And, dear heart, I don't believe that saying you are popular in an Indian state is the same as using a known slur for African-American. Do YOU believe it is?

Obama's supporters will destroy him.

She does it time and time again.

And to much of America, joking about being elected in India will not go over well at all. That is the Macaca moment to which I was referring. Just wait and see what happens with this clip if she wins the nomination.

Oh, and stop with the personal attacks.

I wonder.

Let's hope the same thing happens to Obama.

and how does supporting outsourcing show support for indian americans. i mean, it doesn't even help most people in India.

It figures

Hillary's speech was made two years ago, to an Indian-American audience. She made an attempt at a joke that was in poor taste, apologized, and was forgiven by the group to whim it was uttered...

And oh, btw, has the overwhelming political support of Indian-Americans..


Obama's memo was revealed today...

Two entirely different things...course juding by your quote of the discredited Madrassa issue, you pay very little attention to the news...

HRC should not represent all New Yorkers? Can the Obama campaign furnish us with a list of REAL AMERICANS that are worthy of representation? I thought the Democratic Party was the party of equal rights, the party of all Americans, not just select groups.

Are non-ethnic whites and blacks the only Americans "worthy" of representation?

And if you think you can smear and dismiss it with "enough said," you just ain't been at DU long enough.

That she was reelected overwhelmingly and has the overwhelming support of the Indian-American community...

C'mon...you can come up with something better than this...

And they want to sooo much.

HRC is being crucified for *gasp*, come closer kids, having the support of, of, of, brown ethnics in NY! Yes, HRC is an advocate of globalization. She is being criticized for that too. However, it is telling that in all the posts on the matter today we have not seen a single post from Obama backers on his position on outsourcing. Any guesses as to why this is the case? ;)

How is this quote anywhere close to calling an Indian political staffer a monkey? How is this Hillary Clinton's "Macaca Moment"? Having ties to India or saying what she said is a far cry from insulting a person because of his ethnicity?

It is horse shit, pure and stinky

Well, the TITLE of the OP is "Hillary's Macaca Moment". Which is what I don't get.

Seems to me like she was merely touting her Indian-American support (which is fine with me.) :shrug:

But not everybody sends out racist oppo hit pieces, such as this . . .
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/memo1.pdf

the Clinton Camapaign.

Nuff said on that matter.

:rofl:

Certainly Clinton did not think so when she made her statement, but the Obama memo leaves a different impression.

Who is the racist? Does he think they are inferior? What race does he believe them to be?

trying to figure out what "race" was offended.

I hope someone answers both of us.

trying to say Obama said or did something when he did not.

Is she embarrassed that she said she could be elected Senator of Punjab?? She's the one raising a stink over the statement and calling it racist. That's my question. Why.

Does the term "a childish thread" nail it or what?

Moving on.....

Amateur time. Truly pathetic political work.

I have been inside of political campaigns and watched as communication staffers foolishly tried to make a story out of a non-story about an opponent. The press turns on the candidate in a heartbeat and begins to ridicule and poke fun at everything coming from the campaign.

Pushing that story was a major blunder. Someone needs to be shown the door.

Beyond the racism & nastiness, it's the incompetence that really bothers me. They didn't even bother to create a front group for their slander campaign? Shoddy workmanship. Are they really this desperate?

this was.

But it's old news.

Really. She's the one who made the Punjab statement, and she's the one who is now calling it racist. I guess she's embarrassed of having Indian support. :shrug:

Chapter and verse, ducks. With links. Got any? No? Just sloppy targeted insults? Why is that?

That's pretty fucked up.

Obama and Clinton are BOTH "globalizers."

Jesus, thought people would figure it out by now.

of Obama.

If an Obama supporter posted this, IMO it's not doing him any favors. Hit pieces tend to turn off people who aren't already supporters.

Which causes me to wonder if that is, in fact, what they really are.

I mean, who turns such ineptitude loose, except our George?

and oppose the port security deal in the UAE ?