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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 08:20 AM
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How 'some people' become 'NYT Bestseller' authors ........
It is a witch's brew of niche publishing for niche bulk sales and niche reselling to the readers.

Profit is the secondary motive. Ideological steering is the goal.

These folks will publish anything if it is written by or in praise of a latter day Atilla.



And these folks buy the books in bulk, at big enough levels to make them NYT Bestsellers ...... and then hope to turn a profit reselling them to the sheeple through the Conservative Book Club
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 08:25 AM
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1. And to think Kerry missed a golden opportunity
to sue them out of business. It's something I doubt I will ever forgive him for.

He should have sued for libel the day that smear boat book came out. It WAS libel, no question, he had the paper trail to back it up. He would have gained subpoena power and could have followed a lot of fascinating financial trails. He could have exposed the whole Rove slime machine while costing Regenery millions in legal fees. He had more money than god himself, so suing was certainly financially feasible for him.

Even if he lost, think of the message it would have send to bottom feeding, scum suckers like the guys at Regenery. The only way to make bullies go away is to stand up to them, to fight back, to let them know you don't care how badly you will get hurt, you are going to hurt them.

:grr:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:35 PM
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7. It would have derailed his entire campaign
Either the case would happen after the election was over or if they demanded it be done quickly, he could have been faced with having to provide information to them. They clearly could have thrown even more monkey wrenches into the process.

I also wonder if the way they had people sign avidavids could protect them - possibly meaning Kerry would have to sue all the little fish pulled into this - or worse, if it protected them, leading to them not being found accountable - which would be spun as them being right. Kerry earned a reputation as an honorable man by doing the right thing for decades - he is an excellent lawyer and it is his right to determine how he wants to handle this.

This would have been a terrible way for Kerry to run a campaign.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:06 PM
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8. The only people he had to sue were Regenery
because they are the ones who published libelous material without fact checking it first.

As for supplying crap and answering silly demands, that's what LAWYERS are for.
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ChicagoRonin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 08:50 AM
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2. Talk about unsustainable growth
I've heard about the bulk buys before, but I still find them incredulous. If the Coulters, Malkins, Hannitys, etc. of the world can't write books that will make their own profit honestly, that means the conservative folks are spending a hell of a lot of money just to push their word. Think of all the useful things for which that money could have been donated or spent. Someone told me that the type of folks who do buy those books (or receive them via their conservative connections) rarely read them. Why should they? All the books do is reiterate what they already think. It's a just a prize, for folks like the college Republicans, to stick on their bookshelves and display their con credentials.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:22 AM
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6. There are a lot of very rich people who want this tripe as part of the national discourse
And they're willing to pay for it. (See my post, #5, below)
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 08:58 AM
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3. If this works like other book clubs, the sales don't count on NYT list
No matter how many books get sold through the Book of the MOnth Club, for instance, or the Literary Guild, those sales don't count toward the New York Times bestseller lists. (Book club editions are cheaper, with a slightly smaller format.) The only way to get on the national bestseller lists is for your book to go out through retail outlets or distributors. And if you look at the NYT list, you'll notice they have a special symbol to designate titles that have large bulk sales. If you see such a symbol, then you know that one buyer ordered a huge number of copies.

I'm not familiar with the Conservative book club, but if it works like the regular book clubs, then that wouldn't affect the title's position on the NYT bestseller list. HOWEVER, if they work it a different way, and buy the books through a distributor, then it WOULD count on the list.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:18 AM
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5. If you wish more insight, read David Brock's "Blinded by the Right"
He and a (currently) notable, thin, long haired blond right wing author used to be "runnin' buddies" back in the day. Brock came over to the light (he now runs MediaMatters-dot-com) with the writing of 'Blinded'. He lays out the whole mechanism of how these books get written, purchased in a way to run them up the NYT list and then find their way into retail low-price dumpers (like the book club cited). They also get out through churches who give them away and political campaigns who give them away. They have all sorts of ways to make the sales look legit.

The object is NOT to make money. The object is to spread the word.

Evil men like Richard Mellon Sciafe, with more money than God, fund this crap and are prepared to die paupers just to see the word get spread.

St. Richard today:


St. Richard in 1984:


He's an evil man with a long history.
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/04/27/scaife.profile/
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:06 AM
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4. Whoa! Excellent catch Husb2Sparkly.
:thumbsup: Thanks.
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