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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 09:43 AM
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The Nation: Another Debate, Another Good Night for Hillary...



John Nichols

Yet it was not Obama's reference to the civil rights movement, nor former North Carolina Senator John Edwards' "this issue of poverty is the cause of my life" declaration that drew the evening's most passionate response.

Rather, it was a comment by Clinton to the reality of how deeply racial disparities still divide and damage the United States. During a discussion of responses to the AIDS crisis, which had hit young African-American women especially hard, the senator from New York said, "Let me just put this in perspective: If HIV-AIDS were the leading cause of death of white women between the ages of 25 and 34 there would be an outraged, outcry in this country."

Clinton had to struggle to finish the sentence, as the crowd's applause rose to deafening levels. It was a masterful moment; one that, fairly or unfairly, inspired comparisons with the best performances of his husband, Bill. And, while Clinton did not dominate this debate as she did the last one in New Hampshire, she again came off as the most polished of the candidates.

On the AIDs policy question in particular, Hillary Clinton communicated an understanding of the issue at hand that went far deeper than talking points. She seemed to "get it." And the crowd rewarded her with a genuine embrace.


http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?bid=45&pid=209149
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 09:50 AM
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1. I personally was impressed by Edwards and Kucinich once again.
I refuse to compromise my primary vote to Clinton, so I have turned her out. I don't care how many people want to spin Clinton...

Anyway, I only got to catch the last 1/2 hour of the debate. After listening to that portion, I really think I would love to see an Edwards/ Kucinich ticket. Kucinich could take on health care and Edwards could restore workers rights. I think they would be a change we really need in this country.

Clinton will be the same ole' crap. Broken promises and a divided nation.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 10:11 AM
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2. Hillary could sing "Rockabye Baby" in Swahili
and the MSM would still say she won the debate.

Besides, these aren't debates per say. They're 30 second soundbyte forums.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 10:12 AM
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3. So now "The Nation" is MSM?
Now THAT is funny!!!
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:22 AM
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4. Well, they do tend to pick the candidate that totes the line...
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:17 PM
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5. I thought you hated The Nation?
I personally know John Nichols and know he's an Edwards supporter but likes Obama a lot. You did miss quoting this part:

"Illinois Senator Barack Obama, the only black candidate on the stage, was especially eloquent in his denunciation of the current court's assault on the protections set in place by the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education ruling that barred state-sponsored school segregation Speaking of the courageous students, parents and civil rights lawyers who fought to bring the Brown v. Board of Education case to the high court more than half a century ago, he mused, "If it were not for them, I would not be standing here."



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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:43 PM
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6. I read it...just didn't quote it...
And I don't believe I ever said I hated "The Nation," I simply do not agree with them all that much...

The headline of the article of course, did mention Hillary exclusively...
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:46 PM
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7. WHY NOT!!!!!
Just kidding...

I've decided to be less "anti-Hillary" and be more "pro-Obama". The dust got too blinding recently on all sides for me.

As for the debate, I thought all of them were good with Gravel being the only one I tended to roll my eyes on although he made some good points on the so-called "War on Drugs"...

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:50 PM
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8. Gravel is nuts...I mean some of his answers were just head scratching...
I thought the only one who really did poorly was Richardson...debates just don't seem to be his forte...

Personally I would have ranked it....Hillary, Biden, Kucinich(which really hurts me you have to know), Obama, Edwards, Dodd, Richardson, Gravel...
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churchofreality Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 02:25 PM
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9. He needs to go away
He is embarrassing.
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