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xkenx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 07:44 PM
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Wes Clark does General Smackdown of two neocons--watch and cheer!
Edited on Sat Jul-07-07 08:32 PM by xkenx
Lawrence Kudlow made the mistake of having Wes Clark on his show yesterday (maybe he had to because of Clark's contract with NBC) along with neocon Jed Babbin. The discussion was mostly about Iran. It wasn't really fair, with Clark taking on only two neocon nutcases. General Clark issued General Smackdown. Kudlow and Babbin didn't know what hit them; they were so nonplussed they were forced by Clark's submission hold into mostly having to listen to Clark's logic and brilliance. They even tried to call Clark insane for advocating diplomacy, and tried to accuse him about not knowing anything about air strikes (Kosovo anyone?) Clark squashed them like the bugs that they are. http://securingamerica.com/node/2530 Read the transcript and see the video here.

Who better equipped to take it to the Rethugs in 2008?
2008 is all about flipping a few red states into our column. Wes Clark is a progressive wolf in military uniform sheep's clothing. Many Republicans who didn't care for Bush, still couldn't vote for Kerry. Clark was the only Dem. they could consider. Clark has had more EXECUTIVE leadership roles than any Senator by virtue of his military commands where he had responsibility for the lives of hundreds of thousands of servicepeople and their dependents--the whole range of housing, education, training, healthcare, social services, sometimes in a dangerous spot. When Clark was Supreme Allied Commander Europe (Eisenhower's last military position), he had "Head-of-State" status, meaning that he dealt directly with prime ministers/presidents, not underlings. And Clark was virtually the only voice urging help for Rwanda. And Clark and Madeleine Albright were the ones who convinced Clinton to take action against the ethnic cleansing in the Balkans, where Clark carried out the military action w/o the loss of a single American life. In this he stood up to the Pentagon brass who wanted nothing to do with "saving Albanians." And it was Clark who served for more than 30 years AFTER getting shot up and winning hero medals in Vietnam, when he could have gone for the big bucks in private industry. Try Swift Boating this guy--the smackdown will be heard around the world. Clark is all about duty, honor, country. When Clark's American Dream/American Hero story gets out to middle America, watch how many red states flip. And the beauty of Wes Clark is that HE IS A REAL LIVE D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T, with a progressive agenda equal to anyone. And when Wes Clark debates the Rethug nominee, he can say, "You supported Bush in his Iraq fiasco. I knew what was going on beforehand and testified to Congress before the IWR against such a blank check.(unkike HRC and IWR co-sponsor John Edwards). In fact I was chastised by neocons for being so cautious. My whole professional life has been about a multi-faceted approach to international relations, with war only, only, only as a last resort." THIS, FOLKS, IS THE DEMOCRAT WHO CAN TAKE IT TO THE RETHUGS ON THEIR TURF, AND WHUP THEIR ASSES.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 08:27 PM
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1. My dad (the smartest man I know) proclaimed the same sentiment
in 2004. He could not understand why voters of all stripes did not vote for this man. He said that Clark was the smartest man in the race and displayed the most integrity and courage. I could only explain that my dad was a visionary who was months ahead of the curve.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 09:25 AM
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5. Wes Clark is a GREAT man, and we REALLY need a great man in the oval office.
My IDEAL ticket would be Gore/Clark.

:kick::kick::kick:
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 07:20 AM
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2. They were pushing for war with Iran. Clark pushed back
"GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: Larry, the invasion of Iraq and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein done by the Bush administration was a victory for Iran. HE was their big enemy. We got rid of him. We did the Iranians a huge favor. Now, the truth is that Iran came, has come to us at least three times since 2002 looking for an opening and a way to talk, and we've rebuffed them. So, we haven't tried diplomacy. This administration's not trying. This administration is-

Jed Babbin: (sigh)

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: -on a countdown, and here's what's waiting at the end of the road: a nice air strike, 14 days or so of air strikes, Special Forces operations. We've already got SF going in there. We've got over-flights, at least that's what I'm told. So, we're, as far as the Iranians are concerned, we're doing to them what they're-

Jed Babbin: (sigh)

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: doing to us. And at the end of it, if we are able to execute this strike and we've really got Iran then up in arms against us, what is accomplished other than a five year or so delay in the nuclear.

Jed Babbin: Well-

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK: We don't have the capacity to occupy Iran. We don't have to capacity to calm down the Islamic world after the strike."
http://securingamerica.com/node/2530


Clark was the sole voice of sanity on that show, but his was the clearest and strongest.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 07:42 AM
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3. Is any other National Democrat pointing this stuff out?
It wouldn't surprise me if Kucinich did but I don't know if he is. Who else is talking about the fact that there is a two way street here and that the U.S. can legitimately be accused by Iran of conducting hostile hostile acts against that nation at least as serious as those the U.S. alleges that the Iranians are engaged in against us?
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 09:35 AM
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6. Other than the people at stopiranwar.com, nobody's saying much
I don't know whether people don't think it could happen, don't WANT to think it could happen, or find it more expedient not to talk about it, or what...

All I'm hearing from other Democrats -- about the middle east in general -- is pretty superficial, unfortunately.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 12:16 PM
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8. There's silence on this Tom. If anyone besides Clark
Edited on Sun Jul-08-07 12:17 PM by seasonedblue
is talking about Iran, I haven't read it.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 02:22 PM
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9. If Al isn't interested, Wes is our best canidate, by far. A great American patriot.
Edited on Sun Jul-08-07 02:23 PM by FreeStateDemocrat
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 09:24 AM
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4. I think 2008 Nominees will be HRC and Wes Clark - We'll see??????????
I would go for that if Obama is not in the race - we'll have to wait and see -:shrug:
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xkenx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 11:54 AM
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7. R U suggesting that HRC have Wes Clark as VP nominee?
That suggests that she needs Clark to cover her national security ass. Since the election will again be about national security and all its' ramifications like energy, global warming, terror, let's nominate the one who has the 40 years in the field?
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