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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 07:56 PM Original message |
More Women Feel Skeptical About Hillary's Authenticity |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. In the last 24 hours, I heard from a pollster that most independents |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Aha! Here's that poll: |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. Tell me something I didn't already know. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Smarty Pants! |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
26. We are being driven from this Party by the DLC's cynical triangualation to the Right |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. It's the money. We NEED pubilcly funded elections but I don't |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'd rather speculate that by 2008 the voters will be so utterly pissed |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I think whoever you nominate will win. So, please be careful. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. That means anyone could win so why not |
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enough already (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. She'd like you to believe that |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. An op versus polls. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
4. I personally don't think that she is genuine and that troubles me. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I don't want to start a flamewar (famous last words) but nothing she says |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Agree with you. I was never wowed by the Clintons either |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. They never rebuilt the Dems---true |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Hillary said that her model was ultra conservative Margaret Thatcher |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Tell me you're kidding....please. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Nope, Here's the UK's Time Online article about Hillary being billed as America's Margaret Thatcher |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. where does this say, "Hillary said that her model was ultra conservative Margaret Thatcher?" |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. The opening paragraph |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. ummm... still don't see were Hillary said it... nope.... not there. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. She didn't deny it, so she supports that comparison of herself to Thatcher |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. LOL! ummm... still don't see were Hillary said it... nope.... not there. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. And as far as Hillary being a strumpet for corporations, this picture speaks a 1,000 words |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. where does this say, "Hillary said that her model was ultra conservative Margaret Thatcher?" |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. Thanks for the link |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. no, she's not kidding, she's being dishonest. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Only Clintonistas, like yourself, are dishonest |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Then prove what you said is true. Your link doesn't contain what you claim it does |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Well then, using your logic, you should like *. Afterall, he has not covered up any past love |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I'm sorry but that is how I believe. I've been married 25 years and if I would have had an "hint" |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Not trying to judge your values but to challenge the way in which you apply them to |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. It's not the flaw. We all have personal flaws. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I think the whole Clinton marital "pattern" is largely a myth perpetuated by the media. Sells papers |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Thanks MichiganVote, you may be correct. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
58. Well, I think we have enough heat in the country just now...:) take care |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
47. I divorced my wife after she strayed, but I don't apply that |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #10 |
64. Just because that's what YOU think you would do (and no one really knows what they'd really do until |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
65. It's not uncool; it's just unrealistic. |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
8. Melinda Henneberger is a fruitcake who lied & spun stories about Al Gore |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. It doesn't matter that the author if the Hillary hit piece is an enemy of DU and most of our ideas |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
11. She seems phoney because she bends in the political wind. |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
51. Why is that? |
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insanad (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #11 |
63. The Great Chameleon and Shape Shifter |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
13. They are attempting to glean her personality from 30 second sound bites |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. LOL - I like your suggested means for proving you are "authentic" :-) |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
19. Wasn't there a piece within the last week or so about this same thing? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Yes, they're having a contest to see who can post the same story.. |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-08-07 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
20. The women I know here in Kentucky (except the 25% still Bushistas) |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
28. The most telling line from the OP |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. The author is against Pro-Choice for Dems. Her interviews may be a tad bit slanted. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. She's not Anti-Choice but attempting to state that there are "shades of gray" |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I didn't get that.It reads black & white to me ..."a human rights issue comparable to slavery" |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Ok, but in order to bring in people who feel those "shades of gray" we should be willing to |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. I believe that message has been sent....eom |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
35. She has more advertising dollars supporting her campaign |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
38. Author made hay trashing Al Gore in 2000... |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
40. ....umm....some men feel that way too. |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
44. Can somebody explain anything she has done for Women who aren't White and/or College Grads? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. sure |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #46 |
66. wyldwolf, could you give |
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PBass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
45. IMO a whole lot of women would turn out for Hillary, including a lot of new voters. |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
53. Memo from Mark Penn: |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. So college educated Dems, like me, are not considered "real Dems" by union busting Mark Penn |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I think you mis-read that. |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
62. This is such bullshit - are men polled about whether the male candidates are "authentic?" |
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