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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:04 PM Original message |
Will Rahm Emmanuel endorse Obama or HRC? |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. The words of a brave leader |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. Hillary. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. No doubt? Obama seems to have no doubt HE will get the Rahm endorsement |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
62. You say that like it's a good thing! |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Rahm knows Obama is a DLCer in practice, if not formally |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. if Rahm endorses Obama |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. That will be the party line from BO supporters |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. It certainly WOULD shed some light -- and fast! |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. I think many people who are favorably disposed to Obama agree with you |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. Going by your tack record so far, I'll just take the opposite, which means Obama. NT |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. Whoever gets the Rahm endosrement will get skewered on DU |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. It will be funny if Obama gets it as Rahm would suddenly be hailed as a great progressive... |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. I'm old enough to remember... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Obama is in the DLC? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I'm using the DU definiton of "DLC" - one who agrees with the DLC on the issues |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. WW, have you forgotten? Only the label matters |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. But he doesn't agree with the DLC on almost anything |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. ..except on almost all things |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. The Republican idea of "merit pay" in education |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
80. He said he was CONSIDERING it, and would only enact it if he got teachers on board with it. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Yeah, and that right-wing stance distinguishes him from HRC and all the other (Dem) candidates |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Reality? Or Cheap Debating Tricks 101? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. would you prefer direct quotes from Obama's book? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Will anyone who believes BO is not a Third Way Democrat dispute these facts? nt |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. Why don't you qoute paragraphs in the same chapter |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. why don't YOU? Let's put it all in context... |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Why? Don't you have the book in front of you? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. nope. Mine is on loan. You've made the charge my quotes were out context. Prove it. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. lol once again you are so full of shit. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Because you made a claim and I asked you to prove it? LOL! |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. I heard about a new bio in the works |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. nope, different book. And you're trying to divert from the fact you can't prove your claim. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Don't worry. You'll be eating crow soon enough. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. You have had about a month to debunk what WW and I have said |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #58 |
74. I'll have my copy, too. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. He won't |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Oh don't worry. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. Obama praised Clinton's Third Way |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. He also criticized it. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Quotes? |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
65. your pretending to be the progressive one calling out obama on his dlc and republican tenencies |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. This is the book WW is quoting |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. i was referring the end of your post where you said |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. what proof have you that it is written by the rightwing? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
82. Oh ok. That was WW btw, not me |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. HRC isn't a DLCer then? He agrees with her and is arguably to the right of her |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. Or someone who disagrees with a DUer...n/t |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
7. I think he'll endorse Hillary as well |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Why? Obama and HRC are the same politically |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Yeah, keep telling yourself that. Maybe it'll become true. Maybe |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. List the differences between Obama's platform and HRC's platform |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. He may lose his house seat if he endorses Hillary. |
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MidwestTransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
12. Maybe he will stay neutral through the primaries |
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Bryan Buchan (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
13. Who the fuck cares about him, he is a political whore |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Of course, if he did endorse Kucinich |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Ditto, Gore...n/t |
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some guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
79. Hey! Hey! |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
17. just can't picture Emmanuel hiding under a desk! |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
22. rahm emmanuel by any other name is |
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obnoxiousdrunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
25. Well at some |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
26. Whoever gets Emanuel's endorsement will be gaining an extremely valuable ally... |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
31. If he endorses anyone, it will be fello' DLC'er and DLC Leader, HRC |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I hope you are right... |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Post 27 does a great job of debunking the myth that Obama is not also a Third Way Democrat nt |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. No it doesn't. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. yep, the old "cherry picking out of context" bit... so, tell us what he DID mean, then... in context |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Go read my reply |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Go read my reply to that. |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
35. "Progressive ICON"?!?!?!?! |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I am glad to hear that |
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BringBigDogBack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. I think it will be Clinton |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
44. I personally do not give a rat's ass who Emmanuel endorses |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. That's the funny thing... No one here gives a rat's ass !!! |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
59. Edwards, perhaps? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Edwards is not in the DLC leader endorsement sweepstakes |
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ClassWarfare2008 (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
67. Why would Obama WANT his endorsement?? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. The answer lies in your post and because Rahm is powerful |
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ClassWarfare2008 (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Satan is powerful |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
73. Rahm seems more the Clinton type. No scruples. |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Exactly. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
78. I don't think there's much doubt |
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