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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:02 PM
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Why don't protestors go after someone like Ben Nelson of Ne?
He just gave Chey back his funding.He is always voting against Party intersts.What good does all the work our Dems do when this cretin can side with the GOP and topple all our progress? This is very disheartening.Why don't Cindy and Code Pink go after him instead of Conyers?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:06 PM
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1. There's no publicity to be had in going after a man not one person in a hundred
has ever heard of.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:07 PM
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3. Well, maybe he should be made more famous for his dispicable actions!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:07 PM
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2. They do but the corporate media tends not to cover it.
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 10:08 PM by sfexpat2000
I'm on the Code Pink email list and their protests in Democrats' offices always get covered. Their protests in the Thug's offices don't. So, to most people it looks like they're only protesting Democrats when that isn't what is happening. :shrug:

On the other hand, now that Democrats have the majority, there will be more protests there.

/oops
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:08 PM
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4. I agree. Lieberman and Nelson....else go protest or ....
run against the republicans.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:08 PM
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5. Or Dan Abrams
Stalk that smarmy little punk until he learns the difference between news and pablum. I cannot believe he put a broken water main on national news today.
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:08 PM
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6. because a Senator from Nebraska is just not a sexy target.
They'll only call him a traitor in passing, instead of swearing up and down that he's the worst person of the moment and they'll do...er...things...maybe...someday...mostly just complain on the internet to make sure a true blue progressive exactly like themselves will one day sit in that seat.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:13 PM
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7. It is a waste of time to do so. n/t
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:35 PM
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10. Nelson isn't a media whore like Lieberman
He doesn't go out of his way to try to show up the Dems like Lieberman. Lieberman prostitutes himself out all over the networks any chance he can get. He tries to twist the knife as much as he can when he can. Nelson doesn't do that, so I respect him for that. And besides, Nebraska is very conservative, unlike Connecticut. So at least Nelson has an excuse to vote the way he does.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:14 PM
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8. Is Nelsen the Chair of the House Judiciary Committee, you know, where impeachment starts?
Code Pink and Cindy have visited almost every single Congress person and Senator in DC.
Where were you, saracat? At your keyboard?

Go check out the Code Pink web site. They have the photos to prove it.

Then come back and marvel at their energy, at their committment and at their dedication.

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:45 PM
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11. As a card carrying Democrat, A member of my State Exec Committte and member of my State Committee,
campaign manager, , host of a political television talk show and wife of a candidate, they should marvel at MY energy and committment.I too have the "photos' to prove it.And BTW, I have demonstrated with Code Pink as well.I also marched with and supported Cindy.I have lost interest in both as they appear well intentioned but not constructive.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:51 PM
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14. Well I marvel at all of you.
But coming out of issue based groups (I canvassed for 3 years with Fair Share/Citizen Action
on healthcare reform) did a stint in local candidate campaigns with the Missoula New Party (it was an intelligent forey into third party politics based on non-spoiler fusion voting. They argued in front of the Supreme Court for the right to fusion voting and lost. But the effort elected a lot of Dems locally, but they were all very liberal Dems. The local Dem Party was pretty upset with us for a while. We called ourselves New Party Democrats, and while Repos were winning across the State we were electing Dems out of the Missoula area. At one point we elected a majority to the city counsil and we also sent a number of folks to the legislature.

Some of the local moderate Dems thought we weren't constructive either, but were we winning election that they weren't even contesting. I guess Carville thinks Dean isn't constructive either, oh well.

Cindy has sure got folks talking, calling and pushing for impeachment, though. I think that's very constructive.

Has your state Exec. Committe passed an impeachment resolution yet?

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:07 PM
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16. THere is a resolution coming up before our State Committee at our next meeting.
I think taking such action is silly but it will probably pass as most won't want to take the effort to defeat it.I am opposed to it as I don't think "impeachment' is the purview of a state political party.I wish we could spend our time getting Democrats elected which is our true function. I am much more in favor of harassing our elected officials to propose impeachment rather than circumventing the real purpose of the state party and wasting its resources!
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:19 PM
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9. So when are you organizing this event? nt.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:50 PM
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12. My mother-in-law
lives in Nebraska and she considers Nelson a fanatical liberal. Politics is relative.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:57 PM
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13. "forget it jake, it's chinatown." n/t
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:43 AM
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15. Here's how you figure out who to protest
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 12:47 AM by CreekDog
Prioritize by the following:

1) They take a stand you disagree with
2) If you cause them to lose the primary, their replacement will be better than they are
3) Only if changing their vote to your position will not result in an election loss for the candidate to a candidate of the other party who will take the position you were against but also be against all the good things that the candidate you protested was.

Don't protest Nelson because if he lost the primary to a more liberal candidate that candidate would lose to a Republican. Don't protest Nelson to cause him to lose the general, because that will result in a Republican and totally pro war candidate.

For example:

Instead of protesting Democratic Senator Nelson in a marginally pro-war state like Nebraska, protest Susan Collins in an more anti-war state like Maine where pressure could cause her to lose the election and be replaced by a Democratic senator who will both vote against the war and vote in favor of causes we care about --something Collins usually did only when it had no material affect on passage or defeat of a measure.
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