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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:39 PM Original message |
CBS Poll: Hillary Clinton a good role model for women... |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good role model does not equal good leader. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Polls show people believe she would be that too..nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. well now you know me |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. But you are on this board... I mean in my real life, everyday talking |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. I want you to consider what you're saying. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. And you might notice that those of us who live in red states |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. I live in a red state... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
43. I live in perhaps the second reddest state in the Union |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
35. Oh yeah ... I'm getting PAID! |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I think she is a good leader, excellent in fact |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. I think she voted for the Iraq war, never apologized for this mistake, |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. you're right. She didn't grovel at the feet of "progressives" and beg their forgivness. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 05:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
99. I am not a single issue voter. |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. She my role model. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. Thanks for giving us the poll minus the spin that Wyldwolf decided to add. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. What spin?...nt |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I got that poster on ignore. |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Me too!! |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. Ya know, it seems to me that putting someone on 'ignore' |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
84. Ever hear Roseanne sing the National Anthem? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. I put some of the text in bold. Must be the "spin" he's referring to. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. "Majority Of Americans Believe Hillary Is A Good Role Model" |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Psssssst |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Forkboy is attempting to dispute years of polling, sampling, and marketing techniques because... |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Its a very strange argument. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. And I've made neither argument. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I didn't accuse you of making the 2nd argument but you seem to be makign the first |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. Wrong |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. It is an appropriate sample size. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. The linked article plainly states, "a broad majority of Americans..." Now, where is your problem? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. It's spin |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. Weak... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. extremely weak... but is is a behavior I've noticed... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. How do you feel about the Census admin sampling to pick up undercounted populations... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Do you understand that the census base of millions is a little differnt |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. Not really... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. But the larger the sample, the more accurate the results. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. The sample size is determined by the population size... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Nonsense. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Thank you very much for having the patience today to explain it better than I. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Except it is wrong...nt |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. "What a deep response..." |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #79 |
103. My full answer... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Nope... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. Nonsense again. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #83 |
102. Nope again... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Weak. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. What a deep response... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. why won't forkboy answer that question? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. Because Forkboy was getting bloodwork done because of cancer. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
65. ... |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. This should be good ..... |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
8. One thing you can say, the republican owned corporate media loves Hillary! |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. I prefer a woman role model who... |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. How is Hillary any more Hawkish than Edwards |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Don't worry republicans love Hillary... |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. I doubt that Hillary's their choice |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Yeah the conservative DLC who is NOT impartial but should be, is backing only Hillary |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. What the hell are you talking about? |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Thank you! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Where do you get that the DLC is backing only Hillary? |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Are you for real? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Answer the question. I have seen no endorsement from the official apparatus of the DLC... |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Again, I guess the obvious means nothing to you? Hillary's on the DLC board |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Bill Richardson is a proud DLC member... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Bill Richardson is a DLC member. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #59 |
77. Even Obama thinks Rahm will endorse him nt |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
76. Barack Obama is confident that Rahm Emmanuel will be endorsing him |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Has the organization issued a formal endorsement? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
67. I think Greentea might be wrong on this -- |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. I think you're wrong about one thing |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. The Scream. nt |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. oh, silly me! The DLC replaced Dean with a robot twin that night! |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. The DLC is responsible for the scream? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. In answer to the both of you, |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. "it was the DLC spokespersons who ripped Dean worst about it" |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. Links? |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
58. YOUR COMMENT MAKES NO SENSE! |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. And I'd like to know what you're basing the label |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:50 AM Response to Reply #23 |
98. Oh, you're wasting your time. |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
55. Self Deleted |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
33. That is a meaningless poll. |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
39. I would never make her a role model for myself or my daughter |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
82. Why not? |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
51. Well I guess that confirms that I am an older, married woman. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
61. Cheating, skirt-chasing husbands agree! |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Fun to watch desperation set in... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Why would either camp be desperate? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. Speaking of desperation...Bill must have been when he was getting serviced by Monica |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #75 |
85. So do you think Obama ever ran into Bush while buying coke? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. I posted this in the heat of anger and it was stupid. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #85 |
95. I'd bet BIll Clinton did cocaine |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. It was their marriage. |
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Kingstree (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
87. Professionally, she ascended to this level at her daughter's expense |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. You can just feel the bitterness emanating from you. |
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Kingstree (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. No bitterness here, it's just the truth and the reality. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #87 |
96. Extremely spot on |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. "Sicko" isn't a just a title reserved for the movies... |
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mustang (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
90. She's a great role model |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
92. k&r |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
100. Thanks for posting this. Nice to see something positive about a condidate |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 05:43 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Ditto. It's fun to watch the Hillary-haters squirm. |
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