I just did a Google news search on John Conyers.

Cindy Sheehan and David Lindorff and the others in the group have been topics filling DU today and for several days.

I wanted to see if there was anyone defending John Conyers, who has done so much for our party and our country.

Nope. Just Cindy and David showing up right now.

See for yourself.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=%22john+conyers%22

Why should a Democrat who works as hard as Conyers keep working when jackasses like Lieberman go unscathed?

I did a search at Google news, now I will do a blog search there to see if anyone is standing up for Conyers.

It was said that Feingold lacks guts and doesn't understand the constitution on DU yesterday after he submitted his motion to censure.

Conyers and Feingold aren't he enemy. It won't convince other members of Congress to join them when you attack people like Conyers and Feingold.

These 2 are on our side and have our backs. We need to have theirs.

I don't see many bloggers standing up for him....just attacking him for what he said he would try to do.

http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=news&q=%22john+conyers%22&ie=ISO-8859-1&scoring=d

he is great. don't know what is going on tho

Probably Sheehan too.

They knew what he stood for, especially in regard to the war, and they still voted for him

They deserve exactly what they got

Hopefully in 2008 the Democrats will take back the Senate in a big way, and lieberman will be set on the back burner along with the people of Conecticut who voted him in

Please note, I realize there were a sizable amount of people in Connecticut who voted against him, but the way our system is, it is all or nothing

and a**hole.

So why are they all going after Conyers?

It seems to some she's above reproach? ;)

two summers ago? Didn't he say that we had to take back the Senate or House before some movement in Impeachment could be started? Now he say's that all he needs is three more members of congress to sign on. Cindy is just letting him know that the time is now. I really wouldn't believe that Cindy is going after Conyers. I really have such hope for John Conyers. I wait with hope that he will be able to reach the goal he talked about and impeach. We are with you John. Let's just do it.

Of course she was.

BECAUSE HE CONTROLS THE PROCESS...

Without his say-so -- no Impeachment...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1396667

Oh, wait, that's not perfect enough is it?

Stupid me.

Conyers was way ahead of the issue when something COULD have been done, where was Cindy Sheehan and the rest of those crowding his office then?

Did they push THEIR representatives and Senators to stop the madness before it happened. How many really called or wrote Washington and said DO NOT VOTE FOR THE IWR? DO NOT VOTE FOR THE PATRIOT ACT?

It's good there are some adults who actually are putting their shoulders to the wheel for the people.

Wherein we get attacked if we stand up for Conyers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1415819&mesg_id=1415819

And once you do that, don't let it worry you.

Life's too short, and you can't make a shortsided person see the long view.

John Conyers has a lifetime of hard work under his belt. A few tantrum-throwers aren't going to tarnish his legacy, never fear.

Conyers and other congressional dems have had plenty of time, and plenty of evidence to do much more than "look into" contempt charges,

Those who bash Cindy Sheehan ought to remember that absolutely nothing has been accomplished by Conyers and others in terms of bringing justice to this bush cabal. Meanwhile the Constitution is in shreds.

can just go somewhere else.

No one is good enough for you guys. No one.

This place is crazy.

And so far, there have been none. We have gotten nothing in return for putting the dems in charge of congress. No end in sight in Iraq. No contempt charges. Nothing in hearings beyond "I don't recall". No impeachment. Nothing.

And the Constitution is in shreds while Congress watches, evidently powerless.

because "Cindy said so."

I assume you mean after a dem is elected president in 2008. Which presumes congress has taken some action to prevent another stolen election. As far as I know, they have not, and if you think these rethugs and the bush cabal are going to stand by and give up the WH, you are very mistaken.

The R's can help Bush continue down the fruitless path in Iraq (that has 80% of America enraged) or they can act with the Democrats to end the war by voting for a 120 day deadline.

the dems in September. Did you hear Graham (R-SC) the other day on MTP? He's totally against any kind of deadline.

And if Petraus says anything other than "we need lots more time", I will be shocked. He's going to say exactly what Bush and ceney want him to say, because he's a complete tool and a traitor.

privately that they will support Democrats in the fall when the "surge failure" is apparent to even the dimwits.

After all, she's not a Democrat. She proudly let everyone know that on her innumberable dissertations at Kos--the "Take Ball, Go Home" one, followed by the "I'm BAAAACK!" one, which said she was going to mount an independent campaign against Nancy Pelosi.

Absent a Democratic challenger, Nancy will be the DU supported candidate, assuming the DU rules hold, and the Cindy-indy supporters will have to start their own little fan website.

I'd rather see the war end than see a vanity impeachment that comes to nothing, if I could only have one of the two. And that's the choice, realistically. We're unlikely to get both, especially at this late stage. Sure, it would be nice, but this bashing of those of us who see the forest for the trees needs to stop. It's almost Rovian in its relentlessness. And it's unhelpful as well, to be kind about it.

said! :hi:

I did not think so.

Sorry no one is good enough anymore.

I am just disgusted.

I'm glad you are disgusted.

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maybe there's some truth to it.

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As I was, because like you (as stated in post #23), I thought Conyers had said the other day he needed "just three more" to begin impeachment proceedings. But in his meeting with Sheehan and the others on Monday, he apparantly contradicted that statement, unless you believe Lindorrf is simply lying:

(from the dreaded Lindorrf essay)

"This reporter subsequently called Conyers’ press office for an explanation of Conyers’ true position on impeachment. Only a few days earlier the congressman, visiting a San Diego meeting on health care reform, had told members of Progressive Democrats of America that it was time to “take these two guys (Bush and Cheney) out” and had promised that if just “a few more” members of the House signed on to the Kucinich bill (it already has 14 co-sponsors), he would move it forward for consideration in his Judiciary Committee. Asked how that statement squared with what he had told the group of activists in his office, the spokesman said Conyers’ “must have been misunderstood” in San Diego. He said that in view of Conyers’ statement to Sheehan and the others today, the Kucinich bill was “not going to go anywhere.”"

Let me know.

But I am interested in hearing what you think of Conyers' reversal, or the misunderstanding about the three votes statement, or whatever it was.

I think there is more they are doing.

our country is stolen and our Constitution shredded.

I am not.

Off to the barricades with you, then.

That really pulls the old Connie out of the shredder....not.

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I consider it comic relief..

:rofl:

what is going on.

I defend Conyers, and I am the one in the wrong.

Something is wrong with that picture.

Joementum, where are you? No one cares about you anymore.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1412833&mesg_id=1412833

The thread was not "popular" but my timing was pretty bad. ;)

And now they are using Rosa Parks name to attack him. I will give your post a kick if it is still kickable. I am so damn tired of being the bad guy here.

IMHO. Thanks MF.

You are doing a great job.The Cindy bots have no "party" memory or loyalty.They are not Democrats and neither is Cindy.

I don't have to pass some test of mindless, knee-jerk "party loyalty" test before checking the box labeled "Democrat" on the registration form down at the ole' Motor Vehicles Department...

I don't think I'd make it past the filter some hard core "Democrat" bigots would set up for us...

Wasn't it some pretender to office that said, "My way or the highway"? -- Oh, yeah, the shrub...

He's a good and decent man, and I stand with him.

And Liberman is far from "unscathed." Republicans in Connecticut rescued his ass, but he is no less a Pariah among Dems.