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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:01 PM Original message |
Obama: Most blatant fib of the night... |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. link please? otherwise I'll have to dismiss as partisan sour grapes based on your avatar.... |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. My wife was angry with that since it wasn't true, but he said it anyway. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. Oooh yeah, that's a real doozie...or maybe not so much |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
4. PAC Money Hillary Clinton |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Did Hillary ever claim to not take money from PACs or lobbyists? n/t |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. She is in the pocket of corporations and she will owe them |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. So is Obama only taking money from the middle and lower classes? |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. So 1% of her donations come from PAC's? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. So why is she being crushed by Obama on Wall Street? |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
61. Good question! |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. No answer from the BO fans who call HRC a corporate tool... I think that says something |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. Yet again, Team Smear-4-Obama does half assed research and look like fools |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
5. hillarybots have no ground on this one as Hillary is so ethically challenged |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. I find your characterization of Hillary supporters |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
54. That is old people have been calling Obama supporters names for months. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. What have they called him that is offensive? |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Sorry, but I can't understand your |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. Please show the pac donations or lobbyist donations or take it back and apologize. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Obama takes state lobbyist money...nt |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Hillary takes a Hell of a lot of money. She will not owe the people anything |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. It looks like 99% of her money comes from individual donations. |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Link? |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. And Hillary is backed by |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. 3rd REQUEST FOR A LINK! You obviously have none... |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Apparently you missed post # 23 |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I was addressing Elmer. nt |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Why? Would the answer from Elmer sting more? |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You beat all. Sorry it doesn't 'sting' at all. I just wonder... |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Moi? I'm all peaches and cream over here. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
60. Sometimes when others accuse people of things, |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
59. You sure are awfully |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
62. Hi, could you please show me where that is proven? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. See post #23. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. Ask and ye shall receive. |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. Almost as big as Hillary calling herself a progressive. |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. She didn't call herself a liberal. ..eom |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
11. The bill passed the Senate |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
64. THE BILL PAAAASSSSEDDDD THE SENATE |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
16. Taking on Party Leadership for "Most Significant Provision" of Ethics Reform |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
19. So Obama doesn't take union money? or Planned Parenthood? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
20. Obama needs to get a clean answer out - because he does have a good record here |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Obama's stance on transparency should be the line, not "I don't take lobbyist" money |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
25. all you need to know - Barack Obama |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. The only two candidates who beat him on individual contributions |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Hillary would be much higher but her Senate transfer counts as other |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
68. "would be higher" ....But isn't. EOM |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #26 |
63. they beat him on percentage (by one) |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
28. It's just like Obama |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Yeah, what a fraud! |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. People don't like facts, you know? |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. He's never said "I didn't vote for the IWR" |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I didn't mean to twist his words. But to me it is the same thing! |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I find nothing nuanced or misleading in his speech before the IWR was passed |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Maybe because you have a bias and cannot see |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Don't vote for him then. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Can you point out the problems you see in his speech? |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. No, it is not the same thing. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. You don't know anything about me, and |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Well, maybe that's why you're a Hillary supporter. |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. He has not been misleading on the war. He has been out Front |
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Inspired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
39. These silly Clinton and Obama supporters and their flame wars! n/t |
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be inspired (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
43. Good point |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Actually, you can't |
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be inspired (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Sure you can. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
45. Hillary brags that she's a slimy pos |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. When has Hillary bragged about that? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Hillary doesn't take PAC and lobbyist money? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. I love watching you twist yourself into bitter little knots. |
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