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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:44 AM
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Specter to probe Supreme Court decisions
Buyer's remorse? :eyes:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0707/5099.html


Specter to probe Supreme Court decisions

By: Carrie Budoff
Jul 25, 2007 06:07 AM EST

Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) plans to review the Senate testimony of U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel J. Alito to determine if their reversal of several long-standing opinions conflicts with promises they made to senators to win confirmation.

Specter, who championed their confirmation, said Tuesday he will personally re-examine the testimony to see if their actions in court match what they told the Senate.

"There are things he has said, and I want to see how well he has complied with it," Specter said, singling out Roberts.

The Specter inquiry poses a potential political problem for the GOP and future nominees because Democrats are increasingly complaining that the Supreme Court moved quicker and more dramatically than advertised to overturn or chip away at prior decisions.

Specter, the ranking Republican on the Judiciary Committee, who served as chairman during the hearings, said he wants to examine whether Roberts and Alito have "lived up" to their assurances that they would respect legal precedents.

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:46 AM
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1. LMAO
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:07 AM
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10. I'm laughing right here with you.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:46 AM
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2. Specter? All talk, no action Specter?
He knows damn well those bastards lied.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:47 AM
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3. Sorry, Spooky Arlen. Too late for you to get those stem cell therapies. n/t
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:48 AM
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4. Gosh, I wonder how THIS will turn out.
:eyes:

Specter is well known for barking but not biting. Nothing will come of this. He'll determine that Alito and Roberts are swell, honest men who love their country.

And then they'll be able to say "But it was investigated, and turned out to be a non-issue!"

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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:49 AM
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5. Specter?
Hmmm...I don't trust him, wouldn't trust him to come through on anything.

His story always sounds good until you get down to the wire and then he quietly sells out. I've heard too many of his crime-fighter spiels that turn into nothing later on.

:(
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:52 AM
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6. Magic Bullet ,will have to do more than state the obvious!!!
He is a Representative of the " Good Ole Boy Network " made his Bones in 1963 just like Poppy.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:03 AM
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7. In his defense (and I have never been able to stand him after his
obnoxious treatment of Anita Hill in the Thomas hearings) it can at least be said that he is throwing the idea out there that nominees for the courts lie to get the jobs...with special emphasis on Roberts and Alito. The latter two have overstepped their bounds and knocked down precedents at a rapid clip and they can too be impeached. At least Specter might slow them down a little if they think their lies might be exposed.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:04 AM
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8. Good point. Thanks. nt
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:12 AM
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12. From what I understand, their reasoning was so faulty, that it will be
very easy to overturn their cases when they get replaced. The Supreme Court, once it jumped the shark, lost its moral authority. Sure, we'll have to abide by the legal decisions until we can formally change them, but as time goes on, people will see the current right-wing judges for the Gonzos they are.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:23 AM
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16. Who can file impeachment charges against the SCJ?
Could the President when a Democrat is elected?

I just as soon have them arrested outright and jail them.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:28 AM
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18. From what I remember of Scalia's comments regarding his hunting trip
with Dick Cheney (Oh, man I just remembered that! What a missed opportunity!) Scalia claimed that judges self-regulate themselves on matters that require recusal. So, I really don't know who would bring charges of impeachment. However, Arlen does have the potential to lay the foundation if he's truthful in his conclusions.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:51 AM
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20. Scalia is full of it. USC Title 28 Section 455 covers recusal requirements
And if a judge does not recuse themselves there are penalties. Of course it requires someone knowing that a judge has a conflict and exposes that judge.

I was involved in a case and the judge made a statement that he knew the opposing party and her family and the problems she has had in her life. My attorney didn't do anything. Later I told him that the judge should be recused because of the conflict of interest. Got a different judge.

My attorney didn't do anything. I practically had to educate the worthless nimwit.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 10:28 AM
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23. It is pretty amazing how some attorneys are so devoid of initiative.
I determined long ago that it was for two reasons: (1) They really don't want to be too much of a pain in the ass against the establishment for fear they'll get blackballed by their peers; and (2) because in school they teach these nitwits to Lexus everything so some computer wizard has already connected the dots for them. They do the same with Forms. They just follow pre-set formulas and they call it lawyering. That, to me, is not a lawyer. That's a paralegal. A lawyer reviews the cases to come up with reasoning that will benefit his client.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 10:49 AM
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24. Guess what doctors and lawyers have in common?
Practice. Practice of medicine and practice of law. Need I say more?
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StatGirl Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 04:38 PM
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29. The House, I think.
Scalia and Thomas should both be impeached for failing to recuse themselves on Bush v Gore -- financial conflicts of interest.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:34 AM
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19. Be careful what you wish for...Roe v Wade is one of the most weakly reasoned decisions currently
still in force. The last round's decisions that many do not like were not all 5-4, and some were crticized for moving away from precedent, not bad reasoning.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 10:22 AM
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22. I obviously disagree.
Edited on Wed Jul-25-07 10:23 AM by The Backlash Cometh
Do you remember how many judges on the Supreme Court ruled in its favor?
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 06:08 PM
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30. I do, I support the results, but as a decision, its damn weak and is being reversed ever so slowly.
The right answer to solve it is Federal Law, but the Dems are spineless on this one.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:18 AM
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13. Of course things wouldn't be so dire with the Supreme Court right now if Arlen Specter
Edited on Wed Jul-25-07 09:18 AM by enough
hadn't done everything possible to make sure Clarence Thomas was able to lie his way to confirmation.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:19 AM
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14. Did anyone ever get more info on just how Roberts managed to adopt those Irish kids?
There were some questions about some straw legal maneuvers made to get around stringent Irish adoption laws, as I recall the story.

Anybody ever run into more info on that issue?

Roberts has no respect for law, ours or anybody else's. All about circumventing laws.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:25 AM
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17. Never heard about that issue.
Ireland should open an investigation into that.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 10:07 AM
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21. My small understanding is that Irish children only adopted to some blood relative
And Roberts got his kids via some Latin American adoption or such. SO, he and the Mrs. had some family members adopt the kids, then take them from Ireland to a place with more relaxed laws... something like that.

Might not have broken any laws but sure as hell pissed all over the spirit of some laws if true.

Was topic of discussion for a while then nothing more. Was wondering if anybody had info/links to how that thing actually went down.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:09 PM
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27. Silly you-laws aren't meant for republicans.
:sarcasm:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:02 PM
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26. Or how he snagged his faux wife for that matter..
I tend to believe that he was "issued" a wife and kids by the powers that be to cover up that he's a gay man.

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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:06 AM
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9. U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel J. Alito...........
both committed fraud when they were interviewed for their SCOTUS positions. They both repeated "stare decisis et non quieta movere" meaning "stand by decisions and do not move that which is quiet". More busho henchmen BULLSHIT!!!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:07 AM
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11. It instills no confidence in knowing that Specter is in charge of this investigation.
Has any of his investigations ever resulted in achieving satisfaction or justice for us?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:21 AM
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15. Hannibal Spector covering his ass
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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:35 PM
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25. I thought it was like this: Specter (D)
Fox told me so
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 03:47 PM
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28. Damn it, Specter
If you'd just once...JUST FRIGGING ONCE...make good on your putative outrage, you could accomplish something.

Damn, but this guy frosts my windshield.
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