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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:38 PM Original message |
Who gives a shit about talking to dictators, Hillary voted for BUSH'S WAR!!! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. Here here! No more war-mongering Presidents. nt |
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Danieljay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. Why do you hate Hillary? Curse you and your children! |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Don't worry. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thank you!!! She authorized the giggling murderer in the WH to drop us in the shit... |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. Aww, cut her a break. She was shocked, absolutely shocked |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. If Gore doesn't run, I will support Barack Obama |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. It's not a deal breaker for me. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. IMO |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
48. And a Gore-Clark ticket unbeatable in a fair election |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. IWR defines all that is weak and wrong about the Democratic Party |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. * |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. YES! |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
69. Indeed, yes, indeed |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
103. if Gore does run, I would vote for Obama in the primary |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
11. I truly enjoy that one of the biggest points RWers love to use to get you to |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
55. And that her husband is good buddies with W's dad. Don't forget that. I sure don't. |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. I will never forget this image... |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
81. My point being that |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Cancer is better than drowning. You may well recover from cancer. But they aren't |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #84 |
110. If we can get the best ... great ... |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
12. It must drive you crazy that she |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. It does. |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I wished they all would have voted against it |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Barack Obama voted for funding the troops. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. The Hillary is Shit strategy |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Which translates into precisely DICK right now because we are MONTHS from the first vote being cast. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
14. She crafted the Dem war strategy |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. What Dem war strategy? Could you supply details? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. The supporting the war strategy |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. I'm sorry but you're wrong. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. "I never heard of a Dem war strategy before back then" You're not alone. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. The Party doesn't create policy and strategy?? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I'm not the one pretending. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. answering either, apparently n/t |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. How can you answer someone who sees the Clintons as some kind of boogiemen. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Does the Party create policy and strategy? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. The Party creates strategy and policy. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
70. rotflma, yeah, right |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Well, for Hillary and Edwards it was the same as Bush's war strategy. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I don't think so |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. LOL. Now the Clintons are responsible for Edwards war support! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. The Clintons are the leaders of the Party |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. So Edwards is the spineless crowd follower that Bob Shrum portrayed him as? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. He admitted he was wrong |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
58. i've noticed that most who favor impeachment aren't supporting Hillary. In fact, |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
74. That's not surprising |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Media, money, mediocrity, and mendacity |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
16. Obama, however, didn't have access to the intelligence information |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Former President Bill Clinton DID |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. Wrong again. Clinton had been out of office for two years. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. she could have tried listening to the people who were saying Bush was full of crap |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
77. He has access to all intelligence, plus Hillary said so |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. Right, but Hillary didn't read the intelligence either. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. Wrong. Hillary read the lies from the CIA. She only had access to redacted stuff. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. She didn't read the 90 page report on Iraq in 2002. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
68. If the 90-pages were carved to hide the truth, did it matter? |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
86. They should have known |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #68 |
108. Some members of Congress said they voted No on the War after reading all of it. nm |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. I didn't have access to intelligence information, and I knew more than Clinton |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Thank you. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
71. No you didn't know more than Clinton. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. And Hillary agreed with him, while so many others (like Obama) ended up being right. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. No she didn't agree with Bush. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Our senators are truly horrible if they couldn't figure out Bush was lying. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Our crappy intel was exposed before the IWR |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
18. Edwards co-sponsored the IWR - It's the BLOOD |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
21. Just read her speech from before she voted for the IWR |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. After reading her speech watch Obama's video. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
26. Once again she did not vote for Bush's war. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Yeah, it sucks that her IWR vote makes her look bad. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
75. 10/2003 our troops nor the Iraqi people should be punished for the Bush administration's failures |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #75 |
90. So seven months after this stupid war started, she speaks out about it |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #90 |
100. Again, her stupid strategy |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. She rallied and praised and hooted for it |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. How? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
51. "get the terminology right" |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
112. She voted to allow Bush sole determination to start war. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
50. Please stop with this line... |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I knew we could agree on something! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Sept 28 2002 - rejected |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Confusing the US with the UN??? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. A US-British plan before the UN |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #66 |
88. Yes, stop the lies... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Additional conditions to an unconditional proposal? |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #93 |
111. It was based on EXISTING resolution. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. They resisted those resolutions for years |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. The US resolution (rejected by the UN) was the one Iraq rejected. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. So the inspection offer wasn't unconditional |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. I agree, but I think it's important to point out that she is not anti-war. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I agree.. neither is Edwards, Kerry or the other IWR Voters |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #63 |
91. and the disciples said |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
53. Just as a reminder; No one 'voted for the war'. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Bush said it wasn't a vote for war |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
95. That's precisely it. They put the Dems on the defensive by framing it that way. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. I'm sorry, but I'm not speaking to the right. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
97. I didn't know Edwards voted for the IWR too. nt |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. I think that's bullcrap |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #67 |
96. Three out of four of you have missed the point; |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #53 |
92. A vote for the IWR was a vote for War. Period. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
119. Hear, hear! Exactly right. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
72. Hillary voted for the War. Obama votes to fund it. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. The pro-Hillary is Shit strategy |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. I don't have a pro-Hillary is Shit strategy, whatever that is. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Well then do the country a favor |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Ok. I'm not sure where that comes from. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Obama doesn't |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Well, I clearly prefer Kucinich to the other candidates' proposals, but |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. My point is clarity |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. I agree that Bush lied. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. Some did, some didn't |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. The whole mess is very discouraging. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. I understand what you're saying |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. We agree on more here than we don't. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Likewise |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. Wrong!! |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. It's not wrong. It's just not what you want to hear, lol. n/t |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #83 |
105. Yep, by LWolf's logic, Feingold is equally complicit to Hillary |
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nealmhughes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
101. I want no candidate who appears to waft in the wind, driven to action only when required by outrage. |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
104. Hillary followed Bush's Iraq War propoganda, now she is worried about other countries' propoganda. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
106. Hillary is soooooooo Poll-driven |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
109. Amen |
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