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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:44 PM Original message |
Obama is making the same mistakes Dean made |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'll take the comparison even further. |
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sidwill (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
69. Did he vote for the war? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Does Obama have a moderate voting record? |
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never cry wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. 10th most liberal according to the National Journal |
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bigdarryl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. WHAT!!!! YOUR DELUSIONAL hes running a very good campaign |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Ouch.....let's bring out the punching bag who is NOT running. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Well, I'm a huge fan of Dean's |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. But you posted a 3 way flame bait including someone not running. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. You can't post anything around here |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. But it is between Obama and Clinton....you gave supposition and opinion |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I compared him to the presidential candidate Dean from four years ago |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. No, not when the press is hitting him hard today as well. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Your analysis was objective and fair! |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. Good point |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Yeah he was too honest... he didn't posture or pander... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. No, reread the OP |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. What I think corporations didn't want him...(Dean) and also I don't |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. Unless he starts calling Iowans names |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm not sure the dean:obama comparison is valid |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. Interesting, I had another take on it |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. hillary's "silly" comment |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
62. The only "naive" candidates-- |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. only naivete will keep us from winning |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
46. I don't think Obama is a male chauvinist. Sheesh |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
6. I disagree. Obama has passion but, is also thoughtful and cool. |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Nah, he was screaming like a banshee and stuttering |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
65. link? that's bullshit. |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
7. National campaigns always play to the center. |
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rhombus (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
9. All Obama is doing is responding to an attack on his integrity |
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ProgressiveAmPatriot (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #9 |
72. Agreed, but there are Dean precedents that Obama is facing |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
10. Dean Dean Dean Dean Dean |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:01 PM Original message |
dean for president 2008 :-) at least he had concrete plans and idears |
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TheWebHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
18. did I miss something, when was Obama over the top? |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
20. oh yeah...hillary isn't going negative....except she started it! |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. Whoa..... |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Ok...touchee |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #43 |
75. Damn........LOL |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
22. Good analysis and on the money |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. LOL! How dare he challenge the Queen! NO ONE should dare challenge the queen! |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Sure Obama's a threat |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Yup. I agree with everything you wrote. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. I don't have a problem with them taking non-personal shots at each other. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. As long as she does it |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
40. There you hillary folk go again.... |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. It's not so much that it is inevitable for Hillary to get the nomination |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
66. he responded to her insult, what planet are you on? |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
24. Dude, you mentioned Dean and Pavlov's dog barked. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I noticed n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Cute. Hitting someone when they are down is not needed. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
67. I knew he was asking for it, pissing off the Deaniacs *and* the Obamaians. nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
28. Pavlov's doggie here: Obama and Hillary feuding... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
29. When you post 3 way flamebait....you gotta expect anything. Right?? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
31. It's like the World started in 2004 for some people... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. That's not like you to say things like that. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. I don't think the World started in '04 |
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lesab (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
32. I think you're wrong.... |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
34. I love how you say he's calling her names, but she just offered "criticisms" |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
35. Do you have a link or a quote to his "hyper passionate" name-calling? nt |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
36. Wrong Obama is playing a different game. However, when you hit he will respond |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
38. Agreed. Amazingly (to me) Obama has made me rethink Hillary |
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eweaver155 (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Wrong - She is actling like Bush not wanting to talk to the enemy |
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AndreaCG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. YOU are wrong. She said no such thing. |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. I am correct. She did Speak up for the war. She was one of those |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Clinton's claims of being lied to is just her playing victim. |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
45. What planet do you live on? |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
47. The thing is, you can be perfect on the issues, but if you can't run the |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I'm impressed as well |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. yep. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
53. No, they found Saddam, that's what did Dean in and elevated Mr. 3purple hearts |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
54. Dean was wound tight as a drum; Obama's fist is wrapped in a velvet glove |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. And not exactly a tactful remark by you. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
57. We'll see in the polling.. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Obama is not one to run from a fight if attacked. She was warned. |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
63. Like it or not I disagree, I believe Obama would make a better leader then Hillary... |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
70. nobody predicted Obama would be this close to winning |
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beastieboy (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
73. This was a bad fight for him to pick. |
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