Hillary playing Chess, Obama playing Checkers...

Laughable. They wanted to be sure everyone heard about it. Like people are really interested in seeing her as a woman. Gag me with maggots.

Sorry, you're wrong. "They" didn't have to bring attention to it. It was simultaneously present throughout the whole of “librul” MSM.

"They" did shine, however, in the excellent rapid response to the right wing hate machine.

We all know how well that turned out.

We've got much more important things to worry about right now.

I wish Gore would step in and put a stop to this petty, too-early-anyway campaign bullshit.

Lying about your opponents views on diplomacy...oops no that was Obama..

Or lying about your health care plan...oops no that was Obama...

Or lying about pushing through a campaign finance law that hasn't passed yet...oops not that was Obama.


Or lying about whether you had written letters on behalf of your indicted slum lord buddy...oops no that was Obama too...

for Hillary, is turning me so away from her. Stop attacking other Dems, they are not the enemy.

Considering that Clinton said that Bush would be foolish not to talk with "bad people" last April, and now says it's a bad idea...and then goes on to attack Obama and then goes on to say it's all getting "silly"....well... if this is the best she can do, I'm not worried at all that her campaign will implode by Thanksgiving.

is doing some major flip flopping concerning diplomacy but unfortunately I don't think anyone cares.

by the corporate media. Why people buy into it is beyond me.

even if it's over nothing.

Remember the Laura Branigan debate?

Pray tell, why?

time. Obama has displayed some very good leadership abilities already!

In one day he managed to lie about Hillary's position on diplomacy, call her Bush-Cheney lite, and insult those Democrats that have decided to endorse her...

On top of making the debate blunder in the first place, and making the comical assertion he was the most qualified person in either field on foreign policy...

I have no doubt in the echo chamber that is the netroots this has all been to Obama's benefit...but it has hurt him among rank and file Democrats, and if he is the nominee will dog him in the general...

party leaders. These are super delegates to the convention and OB is out pandering to the public and the netroots who will miss the primaries anyway. Turnout for primaries runs about 18%.

I would say that is chess vs checkers.

:shrug:

neither candidate is on my "A" list.

or "B" list either.

or this stuff would really bother me!

:crazy:

Can we please, for the love of all that's sane and good in the world, let this idiom die? I've seen it no less than seven times today.

(Edit - someone else got parcheesi before i did)

Yeah that's the ticket...just say it enough and eventually you will believe it is true...

and I am here to tell you that neither Clinton nor Obama can play chess! And neither can the person who wrote this article, so they need to find a different analogy.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

I don't see Hillary playing Chess, she's playing Keepaway or running the house table at a Casino.

She doesn't "play" anything, she knows full well what she's doing and she's taking advantage of everything she can. This is simply smart politics, but even that can get away from one.

By the current metrics, amassing the most money and ducking the most volatile issues while seeming like a steadfast lion(ess) of the people is the way to go, but even this tried-and-true path is fraught with dangers: sucking up to big money means getting in bed with some awfully unsavory sorts and this gets out, being "tough" while consistently ducking or equivocating comes off as dishonest and allowing one's supporters to muscle people with inevitability can easily backfire, especially among a bunch of contrarians like Democrats.

Your contention is that Hillary's being much more smart and controlled with her maneuverings. Although this is probably the case when compared with Obama, that's a classic example of being damned by faint praise: he's making some fairly significant blunders, and lots of smaller missteps of nuance.

What she's doing is hardly brilliant or innovative; she's playing it safe and using the tried-and-true methods to ensure success. The problem is that these methods have attendant pitfalls: where's the "there" that should be there? If she's so steadfast, why is she ducking many issues and charting such careful and low-risk courses? If she's the big, tough, rock of a champion, at what point is she going to actually display this with policy rather than posturing?

The simple act of being a front-runner draws so much fire that it's questionable whether the idiotic herd instinct of people outweighs the scandal-mongering critic that rests within the human beast.

Yeah, she's doing a much better job than Obama, but so what? The big mystery is why either of them is doing so well at this point. Her success makes more sense: she's been pretty solid in the debates, she has the most recognition and 51% of the populace is female, many of whom thirst beyond any rationality for ANY woman to be president. What doesn't make any sense is how well she seems to be doing among core democrats; her voting patterns have been anything but liberal.

As for Obama, he's got the star/fad thing going for him, and he's also got an ethnic appeal. (Sadly, though, that demographic is only an eighth of the country, and most already vote Democratic.) After the flush of the new and the undeniable charisma sinks in, I keep getting overwhelmed by waves of boredom; his speeches start out like John Kennedy and end like John Kerry, and I can't be the only one sensing this.

If only it weren't all so damned important--and urgent, because of the colossal stupidity of the front-loaded primary season--it would be great popcorn munching theatre.

Crowing about her brilliance by claiming chess-like intricacy against a doltish checkers mentality is ridiculous, though: she's doing nothing but the wrote hammering of the entrenched and powerful; there's nothing about her campaigning that's innovative, subtle or complex. That this method is often very effective is one thing, but it's far from foolproof.

Yes, his team's making abundant little gaffes (he is too, although he prefers to blame his subordinates for them, which isn't too bright a habit to get into) but he's playing the dealt hand of the fresh-faced quasi-outsider by the book too; his game-plan is just as typical and tired as hers is, he's just not playing his as well.

She's no wizard here and he's no plaid-clad bumpkin from the prairie; not only that, the gleeful ridicule from the frontrunner's parade is tiresome and smacks of the tactics used by reactionaries.

These aren't high art movies or groundbreaking achievements of pure genius, these are nothing more than themeless, hackneyed, big-budget genre pictures trying to pack the houses with fat P&A campaigns and deafening soundtracks. One programmer's a bit better made than the other, that's all.

Wish more people here put as much thinking into their posts.

eom

You want talk about a bad chess player...

Is he one of these guys who hit below the belt and don't know it? It's not checkers Obama has played here; it has the earmarks of dirty pool. I hope he finds his better self. If he is going to be president, he needs to get a grip. This is bogey golf, a pitching meltdown. Checkers can be a hell of a tough, smart game if you know about huffing. Hillary's play was plain for all to see. It was a triple jump, fair and square. Obama seems to think he should try to portray it in some other way. Big mistake.

Russian Roulette? Liar's Poker?

On things that matter, it seems HIlLarY seems to come out on the wrong end quite a bit.

Perhaps that's because she doesn't seem to have a set of core convictions.

Look, I don't want my leaders playing games for votes. I want leaders who can identify key problems and create consensus to fix them.

HiLlArY is never getting my vote.

Wake me if anything changes. :boring:

She's positioned Obama, without taking much a position on the meetings with the leaders.

There may be a checkmate coming soon for Hillary.

:shrug: