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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:31 PM Original message |
Who was Right on the WAR |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. Lovingj does the best videos. her latest is making the rounds. |
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eweaver155 (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. The debate discussion is crystal clear: Obama was right then and he continues to be right. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Only Kucinich was right |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Exactly. Kucinich didn't oppose Murtha in 2005, he didn't oppose Kerry-Feingold in 2006, etc. nt |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I disagree with you. |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. What part do you disagree with? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. The part that keeps making Obama appear to have been a supporter of this war, |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. As post 17 said, I stated facts, not opinions. Which facts do you disagree with? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. How do you disagree over a voting record? n/t |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
36. If we had gone with Obama's strategy on Iraq |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. The Republicans had the votes to go to war, with or without the IWR |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. didn't you post a thread attacking Obama for not supporting |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. No |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. isn't not going into Iraq in the first place the ideal solution |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. It is 2007. Unless we have a time machine, it is not a solution |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. so you would punish the guy who advocated the best solution |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. I believe that your way is the way to go....why reward those who were |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. I--like most Democrats--am not voting based on the IWR |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. but why can you cheerlead for the war |
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eweaver155 (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. As long as the troops are there until they are brought home, |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. So why did he vote against funding just about 2 months ago? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
26. He voted as a candidate who wanted to appear to be against the war, lol. n/t |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. because the Dems should have used the funding carrot to extract |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
40. truly an awesome post! |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. He supported the troops. He was not out pushing for the war like the others. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Read reply #10. nt. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. They can't defend that or his vote against Kerry-Feingold, which would have ended the war TOMMORROW |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
43. didn't you just say upthread |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
59. If K/F became law the war would be over today |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #59 |
65. aren't you undermining your previous argument |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Kucinich was wrong. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. Thank you. |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Always aim to please. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. Obama was right on the war........Hillary, Clinton, Dodd, Biden were wrong..... |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Kerry-Feingold was "BS"? |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. And he never supported the war either n/t |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Kerry-Feingold was in January of 2006.........nearly 3 years after the start |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Exactly. The war did not end on Jan. 4 ,2005. Kerry-Feingold was a huge deal |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. The war started shortly after October 2002........ |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 11:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. So that excuses voting against ending the war in 2006? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. Edwards didn't support Kerry-Feingold, now did he? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. "But, he did it too!" That is the defense for a guy running on judgment and courage? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 01:54 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. But Edwards didn't support Kerry-Feingold, did he? |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Obama was wrong to not vote for Kerry-Fiengold, but he was right before the war. |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. Don't forget Richardson - He was wrong as well |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
13. K&R#5 because Obama was right on the war |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
25. It sure as hell wasn't Obama. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Wrong. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. That's some nice right-wing spin. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Really. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Yes, really. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. "Voting to CONTINUE the war is a vote FOR the war" |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I disagree, and.. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. I still disagree. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. That's ok. |
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LeFleur1 (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Not Funding the Troops |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. The bottomline is that this war ain't fucking over........ |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. It's not over because Congress keeps voting to fund it's continuance. n/t |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. lol exactly! |
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MiserableFailure (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Yeah on this issue, but |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. I'm comfortable with DK's position |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
39. Thanks for the video. That Nov. 2002 video by Obama is amazing. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #39 |
55. Others did in fact make the case that those would be the problems...... |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. They were pretty much dismissed in the media |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 01:50 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. True Dat! n/t |
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penguin7 (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
66. Obama was right on the war because he went to an anti-war rally? |
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