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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 08:34 PM
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Where does your candidate stand?
I found this neat little matrix of all the positions of the Presidential candidates.

http://www.2decide.com/table.htm

Here's a link to the finances of the campaigns, from the same site as above:

http://2decide.com/new/page.php?n=2008_us_presidential_election_campaign_finance
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 08:37 PM
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1. Neato grid! nt
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 08:48 PM
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2. I think so too...
I'm still trying to figure out why I disagree with Kucinich on NCLB...?? Unless I'm reading it wrong. :shrug:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 08:54 PM
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3. That is a head-scratcher. He's still the bomb. nt
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 09:17 AM
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5. Because he voted for it the first time around.
They all did. It was Ted Kennedy's baby (and George Miller, too), and they all supported the democratic idea of "closing the achievement gap."

I spoke to him one-on-one about this in 2003, as NCLB is a deal-breaker with me. I don't know how he'll vote on the reauthorization, or even what we're going to see come to the table for a vote this fall, but I do know that he does not support high-stakes testing, and that his ideas for improving public education is to support it, not lecture, mandate, and punish.

Here is a small <snip> from his "issues" page:

The current Administration wants to box our young people in with standardized tests and a limited focus on math and science. These days, American students are tested to an extent that is unprecedented in American history and unparalleled anywhere in the world. Education must emphasize creative and critical thinking, not just test taking.

I believe we can take our children and society in a new direction by challenging this notion that education should be so limited. We ought to be encouraging art, music, and creative writing in our schools. In doing so, we recognize and fuel the wide range of talents our children possess.


Much more here: http://www2.kucinich.us/issues/education.php

I was really glad to hear him, in one of the debates earlier this summer, bring up research on brain development and Piaget. He's been listening to more than one teacher. :D
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 09:02 PM
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4. Notice that there were no economic/Free Trade/offshoring questions asked.
I find that strange and disconcerting. That's a top 5, if not a top 3 issue on most everyone's minds. VietRaq and ending the sumbitch before anyone else continues to get slaughtered is obviously the top one, but not one question about the economy.
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MLFerrell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:17 AM
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6. So in other words, there are three, and only three candidates who support immediate withdrawal...
...who support immediate withdrawal from Iraq.

Gravel.

Kucinich.

Paul.

And all three are considered totally "unelectable", "also-rans", "fringe candidates", etc.

Fuck the media. Obviously they have a large stake in perpetuating the war in Iraq, considering that the only truly anti-war candidates are treated as a goddamned joke, -R and -D alike. That's when they're given screen time at all. The media establishment prefer to exclude and marginalize them, and promote their corporate-whore(s) du jour and make their chosen one's nomination seem all but inevitable.

And Joe Retard American says, come Election Day, "Well Gawrsh! I don't wanna waste my vote! I wanna be on the WINNING team! I better vote for whoever that there TV Picto-Cube done told me was gonna win!"

Especially as far as primaries are concerned, the media has the unfettered ability to ordain whomever will be most friendly to their agenda the "front-runner". It's fucking bullshit, and it's long past time that the people quit putting up with it.

LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE THE NOMINATION, NOT THE GODDAMNED MEDIA!

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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 06:44 PM
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7. I dont think people understand how much influence the media has on them?
Come primary time, everyone that makes a vote actually plays a role in the war and many other things. We will see then what Americans and stand for and support. If you support a candidate that will keep the big machines wheels rolling, you should accept that you also support the choices they will be making. Do we want change or are we happy with the average joe politician that will keep things the same, well actually that will continue to make things worse? Not only will the primaries be important in the direction our country takes but I cant wait to see who everyone here voted for. Many people talk about change and how much they hate the deaths from this so called war, how they hate the patriot act and the loss of our rights but will they vote with the media or with their beliefs? I feel like the direction of our country will decided like it were American idol and not a true election for change.
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