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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:46 AM Original message |
for 15 yrs. Hillary in secret religious group |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
1. just one more collision in the train wreck that is the dem primary.... |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. hysterical much? |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
56. The description is more than slanted |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
2. I find it frightening. |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. as do I . . . I have plenty of reasons not to support Hillary . . . but this is a major addition . . |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. Must all candidates declare that they have no personal opinions |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. IMHO: politicians should follow the British standard |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. No, but... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. Just a minute. If employees wish to get together privately and not on company time |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
68. Well said. And I'm not supporting her, either. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:07 AM Response to Reply #68 |
99. I'm not buying it. Hillary has been a part of this prayer group for several years, and |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
3. My vote goes to the first candidate to declare themselves Atheist or Agnostic. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
36. My vote goes to the person who can do the job regardless of their faith. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
88. Amen. |
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obnoxiousdrunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
4. OMG she |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. She is getting my vote. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
83. And mine as well.. |
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riverdale (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 07:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
96. Would love to be pandered to, but... |
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pocoloco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
5. true believer? |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
7. shudder |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
8. I find it "redundant" to re-post this every week......... |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. sorry, this was the first time I saw the article |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. I have yet to see any debunking of this. If I were a Hillary follower |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. 1st time I've seen it. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. please post a link to the debunking.... |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Debunked? Where? |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. The Mother Jones article is dated Sept 1 2007. I've never read it here before. |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. It's crap & been discussed to death ...Seems there's a contagious "Search" Impairment Ailment |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. BTW, a few posters to this thread could have easily verified my claim. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. You are linking to me to debunk it? That is just wrong. |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. I posted links to the article or articles which have been posted over & over |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Translation: |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. No one has posted any proof to the MJ article either. They have |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Thank you for admiting that nothing has been 'debunked'. |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. & you confirm Witch Hunts still exist by superstitious & hysterical people. |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. rolling eyes |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. I never saw it before. I find Mother Jones to be reliable-what exactly has been debunked? |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 12:32 AM Response to Reply #43 |
113. Not only that, it sounds quite plausible. |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. where's the beef? |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
70. I haven't seen it before and I've been here every day lately. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. I missed it too. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:52 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. I'm glad donsu posted it again; it's an important article. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:52 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. I'm glad donsu posted it again; it's an important article. |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
82. hmmm... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 07:56 AM Response to Reply #8 |
98. Yeah, I'm sure that you and other Hillary supporters find it "redundant" |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
9. "joined him in supporting DeLay's Day of Reconciliation resolution following the 2000 election" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
16. It concerns me for another reason...the Nelsons control my state's politics |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. "one of her conservative prayer partners was at first loath to pray for the first lady, but ..." |
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Pierogi_Pincher (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
92. ".....conservative prayer partner.......loathe to pray for the First Lady...." |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
17. OMG does she wear a pointed hat.... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
18. Jesus does not belong on Capital Hill |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
76. Actually, we have freedom of religion |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #76 |
108. I did not know that. But is there not a legal presumption |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
19. Yikes - look at this excerpt |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Joe Lieberman??? |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. That's the thing - this is NOT about religion, not about Christianity |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
91. this is NOT about religion, not about "Christianity"? |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 06:47 AM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Sorry |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. I am not a Clinton supporter and I don't have a de-bunk, but this article is crap |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Sanity and reason even though you do not support this candidate.....Thank you.nm |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. No, the Fellowship is far more than a "simple prayer group" |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Of course. They're the Trilateral Illuminati Masons with Bibles. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #35 |
101. Don't forget the SMOM (the old Knights Hospitallers revived) |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. I want to believe you Bucky |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
60. Debunk "Elite cell?" |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. On one hand I do agree |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. I read that article |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Hope so |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #60 |
102. Post #101 SMOM is an elite cell |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
20. Fundamentally misguided ... |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
25. Does anyone know if she is part of this group exposed by Max Blumenthal: |
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ludwigb (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
74. No |
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hedda_foil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
26. We'd better damn well take this VERY seriously. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. And my state's connections are deep. |
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hedda_foil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. K&R |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
78. It is bad news if it is part of The Fellowship. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
33. I don't know whether to laugh or cry, but I think it speaks to the deep guilt of |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
37. Here is an article about The Cedars from 2002, LA Times. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Chuck Lewis has some good comments about its secrecy |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
44. Ugh. Just when I think I couldn't be any LESS enthusiastic |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
53. Interesting |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
54. Whoever thought just being a Christian would bring you scorn? |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I believe folks here respect religious preference-it's the use of it for political reasons |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Especially when God talks to you - |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. no chit |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Your poor wife! |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. thanks. |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Okay - I'll admit... |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
61. I read about this and it's full of the fringe conservatives |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
63. So, the only real tie is that she goes to the Prayer Breakfast? |
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Pierogi_Pincher (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:13 AM Response to Reply #63 |
93. OT--please forgive. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #93 |
109. Hi! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
69. the funniest thing about this story that has popped up several times in the last month? |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
71. And Bush's Dominionism doesn't bare mentioning because ....? |
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ludwigb (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
72. I Read This Article |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
75. Obama is right, Hillary is more of the same, Bushlite... |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
80. Here's a Nov '06 article from Atlantic Monthly on Hillary's involvement: |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 07:22 AM Response to Reply #80 |
95. This was a very helpful article and helped me tremendously |
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riverdale (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 07:32 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. What liberal ideals? |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #97 |
106. yeah, that's why she has a 95% liberal ADA rating... |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
81. Wikipedia shows The Family, a.k.a. The Fellowship...very interesting |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Love your screen name. He's my political hero! -nt |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #81 |
90. I research the religious right, and am a proud member & monthly donor of A.U. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #90 |
100. The possible CIA ties scare me. Reminds me that |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #100 |
110. I wonder ... after reading your post ... |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #90 |
104. "Any connection with the Fellowship troubles me". Me too. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #104 |
111. Yep (n/t). |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
84. OMG I just unrepressed a memory!!!!!! |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
89. As long as she doesn't try to put the force of law behind her religion, |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #89 |
103. I don't care who she "prays" to, |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Being a Senator, she has to work with them and be on good |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
107. I don't have a problem with it. But, most conservatives & moderates wont find this to be sincere. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
112. Wow...what a misleading title. |
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