Poll for, "I won't vote for Hillary no matter what," types

Bush lite or Bush on steroids? A second Clinton presidency or world war III? Reality check time!

but there's NO way I'd not vote for her if she were the candidate. No way.

I don't get any of the rationales for doing otherwise.

Amen.


TC

has made me like her more. Seriously, how many people would have broken down and would be living in a basement with the curtains drawn for the rest of their lives after being subjected to the kind of abuse that's given to her and her image daily?

That ain't hatred, that's just a good bet.

This describes the neocons perfectly

http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mcafee/Bin/sb.html">Read this and then convince me that Hillary is a 'neocon'

But she doesn't disagree with too many of their policies and practices. Not so you'd notice, anyway.

not towards her. The divisive tactics may even be engineered by the right to harm us for all I know. It sure is working to their advantage long term, that's evident.

Real world result would be a lot of people staying home on voting day. How many will determine the results.

Hi Mahina. :hi:

How I miss the swaying palms.:cry:

Sorry you miss home, home misses you too. I wish we could keep our local people here. Hope everyone is good to you over there.
You missed *'s trip over here and the barftastic story in the Advertiser. I couldn't even read it so probably got it all wrong but something like Hero Bush Lifted up by Wounded Troops (raaaaaalph) http://honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070909/NEWS01/709090360/1001
Sigh.
Anyway again hoping people are good to you and Mrs. O over there. Aloha!

His daughter Tulsi was all over the Akaka headquarters and made herself useful all day every day. Now she works for the Senator in DC and here comes Mike.

Strangest damned thing.

Anyway! Looking forward to 08! A hui hou...

I wouldn't trust either Mike or Tulsi.

I just read DUer Incognito's piece on Geobbles. "Honor is Loyalty" was the motto of the SS. It's the same with right wing zealotbots.

I remember many of them by their screen names in fact, and by the summer they were back on DU politicking for Kerry.

What if abolitionists had chosen to be single issue voters in 1860? Lincoln was not an abolitionist.

Who the hell needs the South?

"Throughout the election, Lincoln did not campaign or give speeches. This was handled by the state and county Republican organizations, who used the latest techniques to sustain party enthusiasm and thus obtain high turnout. There was little effort to convert non-Republicans, and there was virtually no campaigning in the South except for a few border cities such as St. Louis, Missouri, and Wheeling, Virginia; indeed, the party did not even run a slate in most of the South. In the North, there were thousands of Republican speakers, tons of campaign posters and leaflets, and thousands of newspaper editorials. These focused first on the party platform, and second on Lincoln's life story, making the most of his boyhood poverty, his pioneer background, his native genius, and his rise from obscurity. His nicknames, "Honest Abe" and "the Rail-Splitter," were exploited to the full. The goal was to emphasize the superior power of "free labor," whereby a common farm boy could work his way to the top by his own efforts.<26>

On November 6, 1860, Lincoln was elected as the 16th President of the United States, beating Democrat Stephen A. Douglas, John C. Breckinridge of the Southern Democrats, and John Bell of the new Constitutional Union Party. He was the first Republican president, winning entirely on the strength of his support in the North: he was not even on the ballot in nine states in the South, and won only 2 of 996 counties in the other Southern states. Lincoln gained 1,865,908 votes (39.9% of the total), for 180 electoral votes; Douglas, 1,380,202 (29.5%) for 12 electoral votes; Breckenridge, 848,019 (18.1%) for 72 electoral votes; and Bell, 590,901 (12.5%) for 39 electoral votes. There were fusion tickets in some states, but even if his opponents had combined in every state, Lincoln had a majority vote in all but two of the states in which he won the electoral votes and would still have won the electoral college and the election."

Lincoln: 39.9%
Douglas: 29.5%
Breckenridge: 18.1%
Bell: 12.5%

And here are the guys he was running against...can you see any of them as Pres...

spare time to his campaign.

but I didn't know that much about him. I never said I wouldn't vote for him, but I had to listen to him and see what he was all about before I warmed up and proudly cast my vote for him. That was only possible because I trusted John Kerry. That will not happen with Hillary. I do not trust her. I don't believe anything she says.

That state ain't going blue for anybody.

However, Bob Kerrey will need your vote.

and supported the 15th Amendment granting suffrage to black men but not women. The womens' suffrage movement was born as a result.

I'm just sayin'...

..or are the primaries over yet?

considering she wants to ban one's right to do so.

...perhaps he can be her running mate.

Without hesitation. The alternative is a Republican.

...if she's elected. No Republican is planning to do it.

Repukes and Hillary support outsourcing of jobs. Neither will get my vote.

Give me a comparison of hillary vs. ANY Republican who has a chance to win in '08. Let' sanalyze the comparison really really carefully.

work for her, put up a yard sign, hold a meet-up or any other such activity like I have done for past Dem. Presidential candidates.

Will work and donate more at local level which will need extra help due to her candidacy and very short skirt tails.

We must hold Matt to the same standards as we hold John Edwards! If there is a receipt for a $400 trip to the local dog grooming establishment, then Matt is toast!

:grr:

He won't need the money in his pocket to help the poor. He will tax the richest.

He does have a blue scarf that his owner makes him wear on the rare occasion he gets to go to the doggy park.

After 4 years of capitulation with Clinton in office, it will be easy for the GOP to retake in 2012, so voting for Clinton is just barely delaying the inevitable if the Dems don't find candidates worthy of a leadership position.

jobs going overseas, screwing around with immigration laws to make sure immigrants come here to take the remaining jobs, pandering to RWers on such important issues as violent video games and flag burning while the country goes down the tubes, and more neo-con wars, then I would definitely vote for Hillary.

if Hillary is the nominee, we get that no matter who wins the election

It's a core issue for me and it is a show stopper if any candidate has such cavalier views on nuclear weapons.

There is no law saying that one must vote for every office on the ballot. We have many good Democrats running in Indiana, and I plan to vote for them.

Since a vote against Hillary in the GE would be a vote for Guiliani anyways.

That poll had to be a 2nd grader's project.:silly: :silly:

can you tell me what the sheepdogs name is,and whether he or she supports the Patriot Act?It seems that all the "frontrunners" support it,but I think it's an absolute travesty.

Everybody keeps whining about the only candidate who will stand up for our rights and constitution being unelectable,so please let me know what the dogs name is so I can write him/her in.

Thank you.