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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 02:09 PM
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"A heartbreakingly true framing of Bush’s strategy"
A new article from the Rockridge Institute:

The American Tragedy of Our Troops Held Hostage

President Bush is holding our troops hostage and threatening them with death. Here is what he is saying to Congress:”Order me out of Iraq, and I will abandon the troops in the field. The blood of your children will be on your hands, not mine.”

Every coffin that comes home shows he means business.

This is the ugly truth Congress wrestles with but will not name. Congress has been terrorized, like any family whose children are kidnapped and held hostage...

...It will be much harder for Bush to follow through on his bloody blackmail if all of America is talking about what he’s doing.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/08/31/3537

And the Rockridge Institute's talking points on the article:

http://www.rockridgenation.org/blog/archive/2007/09/11/key-points-to-share-about-the-tragedy-of-our-troops-held-hostage

NGU.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 02:42 PM
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1. This is very true. I've always said that he WANTS Dems to defund--
that way, the war headache ends for him (it's hard work!) and WE will be blamed for losing the war--and make no mistake, he WILL endanger the troops, and blame lack of funds, for political gain (he's been doing it for years now).
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 05:00 PM
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6. well, if that's true, they have a duty to impeach him not
pander to him,
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 09:43 PM
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10. .
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:08 PM
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14. our reps know the lies they were told to get us in the Iraq War
I don't understand why impeachment would be such a hard case to prove.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:07 PM
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15. It's not. But...
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 05:08 PM by ClassWarrior
...they've essentially been cowed by the criminals. What the Dems need is political will - and we're the only ones who can give it to them.

NGU.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:29 PM
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16. another big problem is the media
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 06:37 PM by MissWaverly
they keep trying to defend staying the course when Iraqis are living under pitiful conditions, I wonder what impact
iran's supreme ruler, Iran’s Ayatollah Khamenei's statement today that Bush and his crew would be tried for war crimes someday has had on GOP stay the course stalwarts.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:47 PM
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17. The media are a MAJOR problem. But fortunately there are two answers to them.
First, we need to go all consumer on their asses and tell them that we won't buy their fish wrap unless they give us accurate content.

Second, we need to BE the media in all kinds of creative ways.

None of this is insurmountable - as long as WE are prepared to do what it takes.

NGU.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:29 AM
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18. yes, I do think we are getting the word out
and nobody has said how the prez speech was given on Thursday, his manner was flat and wooden and it was only 20 minutes
long.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:20 AM
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19. Don't get me wrong... we're only starting to get the word out...
We need to keep pushing the Corporate Media and our Congresspeople, and we need to keep creating new venues for Progressive thought. We still have a long way to go. But at least we have hope.

NGU.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:29 AM
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20. it's different now
just as you can sense daylight coming, the media is beginning to realize that the Bush presidency will end in another 431 days
and they realize that they have to change their approach to the news. This weeks coverage of stay the course began to show
some objectivity, this was help by the bloggers esp. with Rep. Boehner (R-8th/OH) comment this week on a small price to
pay. You are right, we are just at the beginning of the road.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:44 PM
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21. Never Give Up, my friend...
NGU.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:54 PM
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22. don't worry I know we have too much to lose
when I read John Dean say that the reason rw GOP'r hate liberals and progressives and want
them locked out of power forever. Does this sound like people who should be running
America? They hate them becuz they make the government work, they want our govt.
to be a lapdog of corporations that it will rely on for indifferent and wildly
expensive services while the infrastructure and the country collapses from a
combo of overspending and lack of support services.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 02:55 PM
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2. Why not just come out and say junior is holding America hostage, all of it,
its Constitution, its institutions, its treasury, its ad infinitum ad nauseam.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 03:04 PM
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3. Yes!! Say it!! Loudly and often!!!
:bounce:

But the hostage frame applies particularly well to the ransom money Bush** keeps demanding from our reps for his illegal occupation.

NGU.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:14 PM
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12. .
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:26 PM
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13. .
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 03:35 PM
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4. As monstrous as this is, it's only one of his lesser sins.
He truly is an American despot.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 05:05 PM
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7. A sin's a sin, and if we can neutralize it simply with the language we use...
...why not?

NGU.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:05 PM
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5. Well, have a national whip-round, a fund to finance their return. Don't the Neocons use
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 04:07 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
back-channels all the time?

With all the dangers out there, the practicalities could be desperately difficult, though.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 05:22 PM
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8. I think a lot of America IS talking about what he is doing
the problem is they are not SCREAMING about it and demanding ACTION
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:08 PM
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9. Well, using the appropriate frame would help too. It'd give the Dems...
...in Congress some cover, which is the key here. It's not how the population thinks of the issue so much as how the population of Congress does.

NGU.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 09:55 PM
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11. This is George Lakoff's new think tank--nicely done, fram-master!
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