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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:06 AM
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Hillary Pulling Way Away from field...
Movin' On Up: Hillary Pulling Away...

Polls, polls, and more polls over the last few days, and they uniformly paint a bright picture for Sen. Clinton, and a dim picture for Obama/Edwards/rest of the candidates.

CNN - national primary- Clinton 46%, Obama 23%, Edwards 16%

CBS/NYT - roughly the same numbers.

September 12, 2007

Add the new WashPost/ABC poll to the list: Clinton leads Obama, 41-27


The LA Times is out with new polls in the early three states (IA, NH, SC) which show Clinton climbing. RCP link

"If Hillary! can pull out a win in Iowa, it's over for the rest of them. If she finished second but wins NH and SC, it's over for the rest of them then too.
It's hard to envision a scenario in which she loses this nomination."

http://bluenation.blogspot.com/2007/09/movin-on-up-hillary-pulling-away.html
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:08 AM
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1. Wes Clark's endorsement is a major coup for Hillary..
GO HILLARY!

GO CLARK!
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:57 AM
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5. I think this race has been over for more than a year
Hillary's not my first choice but I'll be fine voting for her.

My sense is this will be one of the most uncompetitve primaries in my lifetime other than incumbents running pretty much unopposed.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:16 PM
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6. As time goes by..
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 12:23 PM by Tellurian
and the endorsements come in for Hillary...it's becoming quite apparent who the Dems are going to choose as their nominee. I feel Hillary's performance thus far has overshadowed her rivals brilliantly, negating any doubt she is the strongest presidential candidate in the field.

LA Mayor Villaraigosa's quote is well put:

"On a championship team, we need experience; we need a veteran," Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, a Democrat, said of Sen. Clinton (D-N.Y.). "We need someone who's been through a championship game, played at a championship level."

As Magic Johnson signs on with his endorsement.

vid @ link:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-clinton15sep15,1,3679404.story
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:28 PM
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13. No, this race is far from over.
Wow, I'm amazed at the number of people on DU who believe this. I thought this was a place where you could get away from those kind of predictions. The lamestream media will not select our candidate.
Except for incumbent Prezs and VPS nobody has a clear and open shot. Remember: no non-incumbent Democrat has had a clear path to the Dem nomination since JFK. Not even Mondale, who had to fight off Gary Hart and have superdelegates put him over the top. Hillary isn't any different.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:27 PM
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7. Happy Days!!!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:27 PM
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10. Yes, eg, Happy Days!!
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:12 AM
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2. That is because a large majority of the country know who she is...

I have a deep suspicion that Hilliary is the default choice of all those not paying attention.

I think Edwards will win Iowa, & it will be interesting to see how the race shakes out from there. In primaries, it is the state by state polls that matter the most, as the momentum builds with early wins.

We shall see.

And, then there is the Gore variable.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:13 AM
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3. Obama and Edwards have enough money to go all the way.
I don't see them dropping out after iowa, no matter what the results.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:39 AM
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4. President Dean Is In Complete Agreement With You - Hillary Will Win!!!
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 11:40 AM by MannyGoldstein
:rofl:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:32 PM
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8. Her numbers have been impressive and continue to climb
It is a beautiful thing
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:37 PM
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9. Better hope for Hillary that they translate into votes
That's been a major problem in the past for primary candidates. This far out , no one has made up their mind, no matter how you push that poll.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:44 PM
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11. How can anyone "pull away from the field" before a vote is cast?
Perhaps we should simply scrap the expensive, time-intensive primary process and use polling companies to select each party's nominee for the general election?

Or perhaps we should give more weight to actual votes than to poll numbers, thus lulling the vast majority who never talk to a polling company into believing that their voice, and their vote, counts for something.
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:00 PM
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12. If Calif. changes its way of giving out electoral votes and Hillary is the Nominee
she (of all of the Dem. Candidates) loses the general election. Negatives are to high..... No one is paying attention, right now this is name recognition only...polls mean little...
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 03:03 PM
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14. nah, her negatives are coming down daily..
if you want something to chew on...Obama's are @ 38%..
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:31 AM
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22. Here in CT, a blue state, where most independants are moderate as well
as republicans.... I have not met either that will vote for her (I see quite alot of people in my job) but they have said they would vote for Edwards or Obama..... So if she has these issues in blue CT, and Calif. may split up its electoral votes.... she loses the general election....
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 03:15 PM
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15. Your Hillary fan-site is nothing more than an attack site
that hurts Hillary than helps her. By going super-negative on her opponents, it slimes Hillary. If the official Hillary campaign hasn't shut down your site, then that means that they Support it and may even be in control of it.

The DU readers and web-bloggers are smart and educated enough about Hillary. 99% of them will not be swayed to vote for Hillary by reading DU posts.

It seems to me that these DU posts are at attempt to stiffen an all out anti-Hillary attack on DU and on the Internet in general!
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:42 PM
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16. And a damn good one!
At least this person uses thier own money to advance thier cause. they don't steal bandwidth from a democratic website to attack a fellow Democrat. Not only are some people sleazy, they are just cheap also!
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:04 PM
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17. So this thread is not an Advertisement for Hillary?
And this site is not "Hillary DU" its not a pro-Hillary website, its for all voters to discuss the Democratic primary, etc.

The Hillary44 is an official/unofficial attack site. Hillary would have the site shut down if she decided to, but its an "Anonymous" site of a coward who's bent on going super-negative. At least Drudge lets you know his name.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:28 PM
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18. I know some people here deplore freedom of speech, but thats the way it is.
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 08:49 PM by William769
What about all the other threads about the other candidates? You should really think before you post. :eyes:

The only cowards I know of are the one's that hide on democratic site to bash a democrat.
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Broke Dad Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:01 PM
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19. If Hillary were a Democrat . . .
The good news is that DUer's can still criticize the Bush-lite Little Hill here!

ABC!

ABC!

ABC!
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 10:21 AM
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21. I just love it when people show their stupidity.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:35 PM
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20. Really?
if the clinton campaign doesn't shut an individual's site down, it means they support it and may control it?

How ridiculous.
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:36 AM
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23. You say this as if it's good news. NT
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:43 AM
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24. I hope once people read her horrid health insurance "plan" they'll reconsider
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:54 AM
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25. What happened to Obama's Health Care Plan?
couldn't find a way to make it universal? Oops!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:00 AM
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26. I don't know, ask one of his many supporters here!
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