Hillary runs as "First Woman President"

but Obama and Richardson can't mention race, otherwise it's playing the race card and advocating people vote on race.

And that, in a nutshell, is the definition of racism in America.

And I can't tell African Americans, who are perpetuating the nonsense that they can't advocate for the First Black President, that they're being played, because I'll get accused of being racist too.

Flame away. Somebody had to say it.

was thinking the same thing myself.

Sad.

Hillary is the First Woman (after women got the right to vote) to run for President. I don't get this whole thread, only that it is to make something out of nothing.

The first to be in the lead in the primary, perhaps, but not the first woman to run.

Cite from a quick Google search:

http://jofreeman.com/politics/womprez.htm

How quickly we forget - Carol Moseley Braun ran in 2004 - female and black.

Let's step into the wayback machine, Sherman, and correct your absysmal grasp of history.

Margaret Chase Smith - 1964

Shirley Chisholm - the first black woman to run for president - 1972

Ellen McCormack - 1976, 1980

Sonia Johnson - 1984

Leonora Fulani - 1988, 1992

Elizabeth Dole - 2000

Maybe they should all be running as "Historical Presidents".

TC

on her experience not her gender? What changed?

and all hell will break loose ... lol!

I just want to know what she'll do as president or how she'll become president rather than being told that she'll be president because she's a woman (and for no other reason than her gender).

her gender weighs more heavily than her experience.

:hi:

given of future actions - and then we vote.

Women do not vote for Hillary because she is a women, and "Blacks" do not vote for Obama because of his "race" (the quotes refect my opinion that there is no such thing as race in terms of science - only location of recent ancestors - and that there is a range of hue and color that makes "black" inaccurate - but that is just my opinion).

But both should and are keeping the crowds aware of there backgrounds as they explain there vision for the future.

I do not see the great difference in approach that you seem to see (and Obama speeches in my file have quite a few references to "not black enough", etc).

So far I like all the speeches at the steak fry! :-)

and she lost. Her "vote for me, I am a woman" was very counterproductive specially among women. Many women felt it was an insult to their intelligence.

First woman president = change...I'm sure it was poll-tested.

and thats just how she wants it. who could possibly oppose Rosa Parks?

That is an insult to Rosa and what she had to go through. Hillary has not been through anything like Rosa. DAMN Stop making up shit.

She'll have the same advisers, same inner circle. She takes credit for good things that happened under Bill's presidency, and shifts the blame to others for the bad things. It's like she was an unofficial vice president already. And she'll govern in the same way, only this time it will be worse because the republicans are on the ropes politically, but she'll needlessly surrender issue after issue to them in her triangulation game.

Maybe she'll run under the "Bush has made us safer" slogan in the future.

I see we're equally disgusted for the same reasons.

That's pretty wierd, even for DU.

"That's pretty wierd, even for DU."!!!

Nothing is too weird for DU, you should know that by now.


edit to include "too"

win. I am not sure I agree with you, but if so what are we supposed to do, blame Hillary for it?

People here are very good at using Republican memes.

and considering it's the clinton supporters who say you can't consider race in your vote, well then yeah, I'd say this is a clinton campaign strategy that we can blame hillary for.

I really don't care either way - people can vote for whomever they what for whatever reason they want. But I definitely don't think it's a Clinton campaign strategy. What do you think, she sent us all a memo?

You don't see the double standard??

Should she not mention her gender just because it's evidently not considered acceptable for other candidates to mention their race? She's not preventing Barack from stepping up and saying "Wouldn't it be great to elect the first black president!?"

It seems to me like you're trying to blame Hillary for racism. I know you really, really don't like her, but don't you think that's gong a bit far?

I'm not surprised. I didn't expect anybody to own it.

As is sexism, etc., but what does Hillary have to do with it? Do you think she's promoting racism in some way? What does her emphasis of her gender have to do with Baracks emphasis (or lack thereof) on his race?

Somebody had to say it.

I havent heard Richardson referred to in that manner, but thats more an issue of Richardson not getting much coverage in East TN. I'm willing to bet in the SW that it is mentioned often.

Any time he or Richardson say anything remotely related to race, they get bashed all to hell.

I haven't seen any of the media criticism... I only hit specific shows though, so I may be missing it. The only time i've heard anyhting questioning race was in regard to that whole "Is he black enough?" stuff. If it is happening in the media, then it's absolutely unfair. They are all a product of who they are and what they have experienced. And every bit of it should be useable to point out their unique perspectives.

If its DU bashing, then I have missed it because I tune out those threads.