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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:12 AM
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Anyone still believe Al Gore will jump in?
I can't shake the feeling he is going to jump into the race late next month! (I know...I am probably setting myself up for disappointment.)If he would just completely rule it out like he did unequivocally in 2004 I could let go of this hope but until he does all of these endless early presidential debates don't mean diddly-squat to me.

If the Democrats win the presidency next year (I say "if" only because of Diebold)and Gore is not the prez, he is going to have to most likely wait 8 years to run again... and than he will be too old OR up against a democratic vice president who will probably run. His time is now!

I don't look at AG as a "saviour"-JUST THE ABSOLUTE BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB RIGHT NOW!!! I know how "RestoreGore" and many others feel on on DU. Does anyone else still believe he's entering the race next month?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:12 AM
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1. Believe: no., Hope with all my heart: yes
N/t
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:14 AM
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2. Yes.....big hopes here! nt
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:15 AM
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4. Run Al Run!!!
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:29 AM
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10. Ditto
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:14 AM
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3. I feel he is in training for 2012.
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:28 AM
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9. In 2012 we will have a Democratic president...
...who will win a second term. So if Al's going to do it, he'd better do it now. Sadly, I don't think there's been any realistic evidence that he will.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:16 AM
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5. Yes
He can't jump in until after October 12th.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:45 AM
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12. What is October 12th?
:shrug:
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:47 AM
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14. Nobel Peace Prize Voting/Announcement. (nt)
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:47 AM
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15. Nobel Prize winner is announced.
He's in the running. :)
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:51 AM
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27. October 12 is also Kirk Cameron's birthday!
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:32 PM
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29. I find it frightening that you know that. Is it really, or are you just kidding?
Eeeeyew.

TC




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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:43 PM
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31. That is in fact his birthday:
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 07:52 PM
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55. Thanks Freddie Stubbs...that er...well..that's disturbing is what that is.
Edited on Wed Sep-19-07 07:53 PM by youthere
Did you look that up? Or did you know that off the top of your head? Either way...:scared:
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:00 AM
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22. This is just my theory, but I see it the other way around
I think Al Gore would have to be in the race already, before October 12th if he wins, if he is going to run. I think I will have trouble finding the right words to say this because it is just a sense that I have. Somehow using the most prestigious international award for Peace as a direct springboard into a partisan domestic political campaign feels all wrong to me, and I suspect it wouldn't feel wrong to only me. The Nobel Peace Prize is transcendent. I am not saying that someone who wins it can't be active in politics, obviously that is not true. But Al Gore, given the fact that he once was neck high in politics, has for the most part been out of it in comparison over the last two years while he focused on a common crisis that faces everyone on our planet, an archetypal non-partisan crisis - global warming.

If Al Gore enters the race sometime in the next few weeks, if he takes that plunge independent of the findings of the judges who grant that award, than the Peace prize will add strong momentum to his campaign. But I don't think it works for him to appear to be calculating using the Nobel Peace Prize as a launching pad for his own Presidential ambitions. It would be one thing if he got the award in the Spring and decided to run in the fall. It is another to win the award on October 12th and declare a bid for the Presidency on October 19th. Maybe it is just me. I hope Al Gore wins that prize, and I hope Al Gore enters the race. I just think it has to happen in the opposite order.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:04 PM
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28. I am not saying he uses it as a springboard.
According to the website, they vote on the same day the winner is announced. Here is my reasoning.

If Al Gore enters the race prior to the prize being announced, they vote for or against him as a CANDIDATE and will, in some way, taint the race one way or the other. If he wins, it is only because "foreingers" want to interfere in our political process. If he loses, even "foreigners" don't support Al Gore's run for the White House.

However, if he waits until after the award is announced, the award is independent of Al Gore the candidate and instead is the ultimate culmination in his accolades for his work over the last several years. (Which is political in nature, although not directly "politics".

As the ultimate champion of the greatest threat to face us in our time, Al Gore becomes best positioned to enter the race and can do so a week or so after the award, presuming he wins.

I find it Veeeeeeeeery interesting that the Draft Gore movements are suddenly colsolodating.. especially under a banner America For Gore, registered on september 11th and held privately. Bloomberg makes some cryptic statement about "leadership".

Something is brewing.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:48 PM
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45. That makes a lot of sense
And I'd bet the Honorable Mr. Gore sees it the same way.

I'm still hoping for him to enter the race. He's the only candidate I could support with all my heart and mind.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:06 PM
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48. It won't
If he announces before October 12, it could hurt his chances. The committee might not want to pick someone who is running for president.

I don't think he'd use it as a springboard, but I do think he'd wait until after it's announced.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:19 AM
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6. Sadly, no. nt
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:26 AM
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7. I think it's all leading up to November n/t
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:47 AM
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18. Bingo. November. 1 year. 12 months. 366 days. nt
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:27 AM
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8. My dream is that Gore will swoop in and steal the top candidate for his VP..
But honestly I have no idea if he wants to upset the apple cart. Our candidates are strong and Gore knows it.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:34 AM
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11. Only if HRC's campaign implodes, a la Howard Dean's (nt)
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gorekerrydreamticket Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:36 PM
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30. could happen...n/m
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:46 AM
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13. I still have some hope.
and wish it so with all my heart.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:45 AM
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16. Giving Up Hope
makes me so sad to think he will not/never be our prezident
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:46 AM
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17. I BELIEVE!
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:48 AM
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19. I would love to be proved wrong, but I don't. n/t
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Union Label Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:54 AM
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20. No
But it would be great if he did. The look on the repigs faces would be priceless with the Gore landslide. :party:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:56 AM
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21. I've felt all along that he'd wait until after the Nobel is announced
It's like waiting for Christmas.

Bake
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:13 AM
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24. The Nobel Prize has zero relevance to the Presidential race.
What are your qualifications to be Commander in Chief of the US Military?

"Well, some guys in Norway gave me this Nobel Peace Prize."

Not exactly a slam-dunk response with swing voters ... :eyes:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:21 AM
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26. Of course it doesn't.
Which is why when people like Jimmy Carter receive it, nobody pays any attention.

Does it QUALIFY him to be President? No. His qualifications speak for themselves. What it DOES, however, is point out that the rest of the whole damn WORLD recognizes him as a true leader, unlike the current occupant of the White House. And THAT just might make a few voters here take notice.

There is also the consideration that Mr. Gore, knowing he is under consideration, did not want to taint the Nobel process with American politics, or be accused of using the Nobel to boost his candidacy.

Bake
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:11 AM
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23. Keep Hope Alive!
THE LAST TEMPTATION OF AL GORE
By Eric Pooley
TIME Magazine -- May 17, 2007

Let's say you were dreaming up the perfect stealth candidate for 2008, a Democrat who could step into the presidential race when the party confronts its inevitable doubts about the front runners. You would want a candidate with the grass-roots appeal of Barack Obama -- someone with a message that transcends politics, someone who spoke out loud and clear and early against the war in Iraq. But you would also want a candidate with the operational toughness of Hillary Clinton -- someone with experience and credibility on the world stage.
In other words, you would want someone like Al Gore -- the improbably charismatic, Academy Award-winning, Nobel Prize-nominated environmental prophet with an army of followers and huge reserves of political and cultural capital at his command.
...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1622597,00.html



There is still a small chance that Al Gore will change his mind and jump in.

For me the latest possible date is November 4th - one year out from the election.

But it is more likely that he will stay out and endorse John Edwards for President.

Gore said some nice things about John Edwards on CNN (Larry King, May 22nd).

I guess Al doesn't have a problem with a candidate owning a big house! ;-)


Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :patriot:

Sign the Live Earth Pledge: www.liveearthpledge.org

Visit Al's site www.algore.com and read his blog http://blog.algore.com

Sign the petitions at www.algore.org and www.draftgore.com

Visit www.americaforgore.org and send your two cents to Al!

:kick:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:18 AM
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25. It depends.....probably on how the top Tier Dems are looking.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 01:54 PM
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32. I like his environmental stance
I don't know what the rest of his program would be...

So, I'm still waiting to be convinced that he'd be better than Kucinich...
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 01:57 PM
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33. I'm going to say absolutely positively no way he's going to run...
which should make everyone happy because I'm almost always wrong.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 02:17 PM
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34. My fellow DUer and Gore supporting friends.....
I hope he runs, as those of us in the Edwards camp love all those who join the campaign trail, move progressive issues forward and would sincerely welcome him to the debate....and kicking GOP ASS :evilgrin:

I'm not sure he's going to run, and I say this from experience. The night Kerry conceded to Bush in 2004, there was never a doubt in my mind that Edwards was running again in 2008. I haven't seen a glint of this passion in Al, not even the night he conceded to Bush in 2000.

I want to support someone who wants to be President.

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 06:17 PM
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35. No, I don't. I think he's never really been likely to get in, despite people's hopes. NT
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 06:18 PM
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36. Yes, I do, on October 13!!!! (after he is awarded the Peace Prize)...
If that doesn't happen, I will be extremely depressed!
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 06:19 PM
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37. No. He's stated it many times.
sorry. Just ain't gonna happen.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 06:31 PM
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38. I'm still hoping he does
But if he is, I think he needs to do it ASAP.
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:00 PM
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39. al gore
I hope he runs because if not we will get a repub lite in office either Hillary or Obama unless Edwards somehow jumps the gun. Between Hillarie’s corporate ties and religious pandering and Obama making statements like liquid coal is a good alternative fuel we will be in quite a pickle. Gore is the only candidate progressive enough and visible enough (otherwise it would be Kucinich) to win the presidency. I believe gore would be great, unless the repub thugs already got to him and warned him not to run ala JFK, anthrax in the mail, or the general republican thugery that we have come to know and love from the repub party. Gore would be great, if he is going to run is going to be different. What we have to remember is that the repub has taken control on so many levels and one level that affects all human beings equally is personal harm and I do believe that some of those in power will not hesitate to stoop to that level.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:44 PM
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40. Hope, not believe.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:06 PM
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41. I'm not sure Gore's policies would be substantially different that Clinton's.
Edited on Tue Sep-18-07 08:11 PM by calteacherguy
And I don't think he's as electable.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:04 PM
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51. ahahahaha!
He's already been elected once.

He's 10 times more electable than Hillary.

That's why she started to campaign 6 months early. She has to make herself look like the only choice before Al steps in and steals the show.
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:17 PM
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42. He's waiting to be drafted at the convention. nt
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:42 PM
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43. Hope springs eternal

:kick:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:44 PM
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44. I think he's in.
Hell, it's his job, isn't it -- minus SCOTUS, Al's in the Oval Office.

That Florida operation down there stunk to high heaven, IMO.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:00 PM
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46. I have the same feeling as you do
and I definately think that Gore's the best person for the job! He absolutely has the most executive experience of any of the current candidates. :patriot:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:03 PM
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47. Yes
Hopefully sometime during the last two weeks of October or first two weeks of November, at the latest.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:28 PM
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49. Nope.
He's got no staffers on the ground. No committees. No network.

Face it, he is not running. Get used to it.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:34 PM
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50. No. And I think we should leave him alone.
I'd vote for him in a heartbeat, but he's in a different place now. He's stepped out of politics and is busy saving the world for us and our children. Good for him! (and us!)
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 04:13 PM
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52. "And then there's always Halloween." COME ON!
Gore's benefits as a candidate are canceled by the simple fact that he doesn't want to run.

And looking at the number of people who are clamoring for him to put his hand in the garbage disposal again, it's easy to see why.

I don't believe Gore has the sternness of character to run for President. He's afraid of the people. Given how many of them hated him during his Presidential run, that might seem understandable...but a candidate has to be unafraid of opposition. He was, and is.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 04:59 PM
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53. Was it necessary to call me out in your op?
I think I've taken enough of a beating here for my honest opinions. I love the man and I love that he is now doing what he has always wished to do his way in line with his conscience. Especially because it is important now and it is having a positive effect on the world. I agree with him that politics is toxic and that it is not the be all end all in solving the climate crisis. He tried that route for thirty years and got nowhere. He is now going around the status quo and doing something wonderful for this planet in the process. Why must I then be singled out as if having that opinion is criminal simply because I also don't want to see him hurt again as well? So again, was there a need to call me out in this OP as if just because I agree with him I am not a supporter of his? Or am I misunderstanding your intent?
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 05:32 PM
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54. Holding on to the hope that he is going to run.
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