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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:04 AM
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Are you familiar with the Rosenberg Case? You should be,
because there are some implications for us today. The basics of the case are that Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were tried in federal court in Manhattan for "conspiring to commit espionage for the Soviet Union." Not for committing espionage or for treason, only for conspiring to commit espionage. It was alleged that they persuaded Ethel's sister-in-law, Ruth Greenglass, to convince her husband (and Ethel's brother), David Greenglass to steal secrets at Los Alamos in 1944.

The Rosenbergs were found guilty and executed in the electric chair at Sing Sing on June 19, 1953. They left behind two sons, Michael, age 10, and Robby, age 6.
On the day they were executed, thousands of people gathered in 17th Street after New York City denied them permission to hold a vigil in Union Square.

The case against the Rosenbergs was a frame-up. It would take too much space for me to explain all that was done wrong, so I'll refer you to the site of a group that wants to re-open the Rosenberg case.

http://www.rosenbergtrial.org/

Here is some information from that site that is quite pertinent today:


"The purpose, and result, of this frame-up case was the destruction of America's political conscience. The harsh sentences meted out in this case conveyed a clear message to Americans that disagreement with our government's policies could be hazardous to liberty and life. In addition, the outcome of the case reflected and re-enforced one of the most draconian laws (passed over the veto of President Truman) ever enacted by Congress: The Internal Security Act of 1950 (McCarran Act)."

"By order of this McCarthy/FBI inspired McCarran Act, all members of the Communist Party and all members of a hundred so-called Communist Front organizations (defined by the Attorney General), were declared to have "transferred their allegiance to" the Soviet Union. Overnight, almost 500,000 Americans had become "Soviet spies". Of course, this included the Rosenbergs.Because of the stigma attached to membership, many public service organizations were destroyed. These organizations had defended civil rights and civil liberties; supported affirmative action; and aided the poor, the minorities, the under-privileged, the unemployed, the elderly and disabled, the ill housed and ill fed. Although most of the McCarran Act was declared unconstitutional and repealed by 1971, progressive party politics has been stifled to this day."

"The Rosenberg case was unprecedented in the way the death penalty was applied. Never before in American civil court history had there been an execution for espionage, let alone conspiring to commit espionage. And since then, many Americans have been convicted of spying for the Soviet Union and other countries. Amazingly, some of these spies were FBI and CIA agents. Yet, none of them have received a death sentence."

"What made the Rosenberg case so unique? The defendants were executed for crimes they were convicted of in the media, but not by a jury in the courtroom. The trial took place at the height of McCarthyism and anti-communist hysteria and paranoia. For eight months after their arrests, the Rosenbergs were being blamed by the FBI and throughout the media with having caused the United States' undeclared war then raging in Korea. It was claimed that they did this by having stolen and transmitted the A-bomb secret to the Soviets. A majority of Americans uncritically accepted these false allegations and clamored for the harsh punishment of these "communist traitors". When the trial began the public was under the impression that the defendants were being tried for atomic espionage and treason, a capital offense. However, neither of these crimes was charged at the trial. The indictment was only for conspiring to commit espionage, not for passing any classified material. And definitely not for treason."



I really had no idea of all that was wrong with this case until I read about it this morning. I remember hearing about it as a child but what I heard was what the media reported and these were the days of McCarthyism and "Better dead than Red."

There are many photos at the site and artwork by Picasso, Leger, and less-known artists. I especially liked "His Famous Smile (Eisenhower)" because of its message. Ike could have commuted the Rosenberg's death sentences since it was a federal case.



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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:31 AM
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1. I'm convinced that part of the overall PNAC/BushCo strategy is to . . .
dramatically reduce the population of this country (and the planet) on the theory "if there's less of THEM, there will be more for US!" . . . that's why the talk of nuclear strikes, the construction of concentration camps, the abandonment of New Orleans, etc. . .

they want to get rid of as much of the "rabble" as possible; whether it's by death, imprisonment, or abandonment is really irrevant to this crew, which is descended from "great" Americans who fully supported the "science" of eugenics . . .
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:19 AM
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2. You remind me that Frank Zappa suspected that
AIDS was a Pentagon product.

In a similar vein, I seem to be the only person who remembers back in the days of AIDS panic, it would've been late '92 or 1993 by my calculation (based on where I was living), there was a very small report in the newspaper that a major study designed to estimate the threat posed by AIDS had concluded that there was not a great deal to fear essentially because the kinds of people most at risk of contracting AIDS were not the same kinds of people who run the country and commission studies. In other words, reading between the lines of the study the official conclusion was that "AIDS only kills other people, not us, so we can all calm down".

Isn't there anyone else who remembers this hitting the news? I remember it clearly.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:25 PM
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4. Synchronicity strikes; I was just talking last night

about the fact that many black people believe that HIV was engineered by the government to kill blacks, and that cocaine was introduced into black neighborhoods by the CIA.

I never saw that story. I wonder if you can find it at Memory Hole? Creepy stuff.

It was obvious that although it was first in gays, Haitians, and drug users who shoot up that HIV was sexually transmitted and blood-borne so it was bound to spread outside those populations. The Red Cross refused to screen blood or turn away gay donors, as I recall, in the early days of the epidemic, and a lot of people got HIV from transfusions back then. Since gays sometimes have sex with women, and straight men sometimes have sex with gay men and then go back to their wives or girlfriends, and lots of people lie to their partners, of course HIV spread throughout the population as an STD. It could have been controlled much better, one would think, if those in power had really wanted to control it.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:19 PM
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5. Wasn't it the early 1980s, not 1990s?
I remember that Reagan was criticized for not responding. By 1990, the facts of AIDS were very well known.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:43 AM
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3. The unfulfilled promise of AIDS vaccine to Africa, the refusal
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 11:44 AM by DemBones DemBones
to act to stop the genocide in Darfur. Did they really give the money to the tsunami victims that they promised or was that like New Orleans, New York, and the AIDS money for Africa?

W and Poppy have bought land in Paraguay, as I'm sure you know, adjacent to Rev. Moon :eyes: and adjacent to a huge aquifer. I'm guessing they're building a huge underground complex there so they can survive nuclear attacks and live in luxury. If we bomb Iran and the nukes start flying from China, Korea, or Pakistan, they can go to that underground bunker for the secret government, the one to take the place of the government if Washington is nuked. But how do they get from there to Paraguay, I wonder?

And what the HELL is Bill Clinton doing palling around with Poppy???

Maybe those stories about Mena are true.
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