Why Hillary is ahead in the Polls.

There are three primary reasons (no pun intended).

1) Democratic voters feel she has the most experience and would be ready to govern from day one. It's true she was a team player, along with Bill Clinton, in the Clinton White House. She knows the ins and outs of how the Presidency works on a day to day basis, and how to be an effective President. She would have very little of a "learning curve" from her first day in office. This is especially important in given current international events, and events we cannot foresee. Also, she has many connections from the Bill Clinton Presidency and would be able to bring in an effective team right away. A team that already in many cases will have had experience working together successfully. And, she knows many prominent world leaders. She would be respected as a world leader right away. The international community has good memories of the Clinton years.

2) Democratic voters feel she is best equipped to mount a winning campaign capable of defeating the Republican nominee. They have concluded this based on the hard evidence of years she has spent fending off attacks from the right. She's an experienced politician, and of all the nominees, least likely to make a serious error leading to a loss in November.

3) Folks just plain like her. They respect her tenacity and ability to gain the respect of Republicans, as she has done in her home state of New York. Democratc voters feel she is the candidate most able to work with the Congress to achieve Democratic legislative goals, such as Health Care reform. She has the experience, and she has the know-how.

She'll be a great President

Many of us feel Obama or Edwards is all of that you think about her and more.

And by the way, Obama will be a great president starting Jan 09. In fact, he might be better than Bill Clinton.

President of the month book club.

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They said........over....and over....and over.

Follow the money.

She's ahead in almost every poll every where, and all DU people can say is it's a lie, it's a set-up, it's a plant, it's the GOP, it's the MSM, it's paid posters...
Well gee, just maybe it's because Democrats like her?

this same crap...I really don't think he gives a tickers damn about hillery...he is out for a little fun with us...

And please, put me on ignore. You're waaaay too fragile to hear opposing points of view.

I never listen to them.

They keep telling us she is going to win.

Or your side.

Just thought you should know.


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The only person(s) to respond, I can't see! LOL!!!


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I never had anyone on ignore until a week or so ago... I have only one or two on ignore, and I managed this! Brava!

They're too fragile to hear anyone but other Haters!!
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worst nightmare, in my opinion. Just a corporate shill, rethug lite, blah blah.

they love her to run and lose against a Repub.

declare that folks plain "like her.' Even many of her staunchest supporters admit that "liability" is not Hillary's strong point.

What'll the tinfoilhat wearing DUers do if...if...if... she's ahead because Democrats like her!?!?
Oh, the humanity!

Or your side.

Just thought you should know.

Who, as you well know, think all DUers who think Clinton is our best candidate are paid operatives of the GOP...
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Not everybody likes Hillary in fact my mother who is a 74 year old liberal democrat for ever said she will not vote for her if she is the nominee. she said if its her and Rudy she's going with Rudy. i asked her why she doesn't like her and she said shes COLD and cocky

she might as well withdraw right now.

The cold and cocky bit is a typical sexist remark, and more likely from you than your mommy.


I call BullShit Big D.

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Yes, I think she would have very little down-time as President. Gore or Edwards would be great too!

are high up in politics in WA state, no one is into Hillary, maybe Obama, maybe Edwards, hopefully Gore but hardly anyone wants Hillary.

I live in the state also and my whole area is into Obama. Both my friend and I are still hoping for Gore.

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All of us who say it are liars. Bout time you figured that out.

think much of Senator Patty Murray or DLCer Senator Maria Cantwell either.

I wonder how those two lackluster dames snuck into office.:shrug:

but I remember that is just a line. :)

Like me.

But I guess I don't count.

Nobody likes Hillary, all those posters on this thread that say that insist that "nobody" likes Hillary.

And you don't count and I don't count and anyone who likes Hillary doesn't count.

Only people who are paid to like Hillary or are duped by those who are paid to like her, actually like her.

Get it?

Criminy!

Name recognition. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Once Gore enters, it will be over for Clinton until 2016.

Nothing else could explain the willful disregard for the truth.

You did that to me a while back, and now you're doing it to calteacherguy.

God, unless you know who our employers are, just shut up about us being paid operatives, you don't know what you are talking about.

There is a difference between a SUSPICION (which is what I posted very clearly) and an ACCUSATION.

Spare me. Go away unless you are here to talk real issues rather than ad hominem "suspicion".

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It proves that a very small group of well paid shills can make a lot of noise

(Notice the lack of depth to the crowd and the large amoung of sinage used to cover it up!)

Its all you have to know about the Clinton campaign.

Please do tell.

It is one level deep and over done with signage. They didn't even have ENOUGH PEOPLE to hold all the signs, which is why you see so many lying useless on the ground.

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That is what makes it so enjoyable.

Does it also show that they are paid shills?

"It proves that a very small group of well paid shills can make a lot of noise"?

The picture is a SYMBOL of the campaign. It shows a very small group of people trying to look bigger with large signage to cover up the fact that there aren't that many people.

Clinton's campaign is not made up of a large number of dedicated grass roots followers, but a political machine of paid campaign workers attempting to make it look bigger than it is.

The picture (whether those few people are paid or not) shows it perfectly.

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Too bad you are unable to participate in the REAL discussions on the issues.

two people in this thread have busted you on that point so far.

So you will not be hearing from me again.

No such thing has happened.

The reality is it is easy to make you go away... just ask you to provide a fact.

You have run everytime I have asked you to provide any factual backup. I, on the other hand, have provided specific factual background everytime you have asked.

In fact, I am NOT ALLOWED to be PAID by ANY partisan campaign.

Milo simply is making this stuff up.

Slander without evidence, then take off.

Despite numerous challenges.

You still never came back to the health care issue after her plan turned out to be EXACTLY what I stated it was.

and it still bugs me that you did and never provided any evidence, you just let it fly and left.

The MSM is the tail that wags the dog. The real truth is far from what you see reported - and there are corporate shills that will say anything to get her elected. But ya see, it's not about Hillary --- just follow the money.

There are so many reason's your assumptions are wrong; but rather than an essay from me - just search the DU's archives for the past week. More than enough there...

Though I'll give you one reason that sums it up pretty damn good. She voted for the Kyle-Lieberman Amendment.

She is the most Republican of any Dem in the primary field.

Here's your hat. Size small?
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Just one example of many....


SiCKO: Hillary Clinton became the second largest recipient in the Senate of health care industry contributions.

"As she runs for re-election to the Senate from New York this year and lays the groundwork for a possible presidential bid in 2008, Mrs. Clinton is receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from doctors, hospitals, drug manufacturers and insurers. Nationwide, she is the No. 2 recipient of donations from the industry, trailing only Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, a member of the Republican leadership." Raymond Hernandez and Robert Pear, "Once an Enemy, Health Industry Warms to Clinton," New York Times, July 12, 2006.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/checkup/

Or did you just lose your train of thought?

That just floored me. I haven't made up my mind yet, except that in the primary, I will not, under any circumstance, vote for Hillary. And that is based on listening to her and only her.

If there is something in the amendment AS PASSED you find objectionable by all means let it be known...but please be specific.

Momentum, coupled with the knowledge of her financial position and the implicit belief that she will be the nominee.

She is not my favorite candidate, but I'll vote for any Democrat against any Republican at this point.

Another question I keep asking myself is, "Why is Kucinich 'unelectable'?"

Unless Gore jumps in, my favorite is probably Biden.

as for why Hillary is the nominee, Biden said it best:

Name recognition buys press, press, gets money, money gets press... and over, and over, and over....

tail wagging the dog. I also notice the original post had almost no policy remarks in it. As usual.

I've liked Biden since I was in college during the '84/'85 presidential season. He's just so seasoned, intelligent, and he has experienced so much suffering and has come through it. He's very inspiring to me.

This is a rare occurrence for me.

Agreed.

then she's really disturbed. Check the Rassmussen polls. The only Sure Thing in the general election is John Edwards.

She needs to stick with NYC and leave the rest of the country alone.

Words have meanings. "hates" is utterly not the right word here.

Very interesting.

Look at rassmussen polls, etc.

I like a Sure Thing, but its not for everyone.

For the seven days ending September 23, 2007, Hillary Clinton earns 39% of the vote. Barack Obama is second at 25% followed by John Edwards at 14%. New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson and Delaware Senator Joe Biden top the second-tier candidates at 4% followed by Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich at 2%. Connecticut Senator Chris Dodd and former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel each register 1% support. Ten percent (10%) of Likely Democratic Primary Voters are undecided (review history of weekly results).

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/2008_democratic_presidential_primary

Hillary can't beat Rudy by narrow margin, but Edwards has a HUGE LEAD over all GOP nominees

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/favorables/election_2008_democratic_candidates_running_in_2008_presidential_election

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I guarantee that the first time she reveals her corporatist tendencies, we will join the Freepers in vilifying her. Even if we voted for her in the presidential election, because the primaries failed to stop her.

Where were the Democrats for Bill Clinton in 1998? She goes to the corporatist side, like he did, and the Democrats will not defend her when things go south, just like they didn't defend Bill Clinton. Tick tock.

I'm guessing you'll be one of the first people to get tombstoned come February.

We? Who's we? It's more like just you and a couple other disrupters.

But from that point on, if she turns out to be a poser and reveals herself to be a corporatist, my guess is that I won't be alone on this newsgroup in attacking her policies. She won't have a honeymoon. That much is predictable.

I want a woman for President. Because we rule. Simple as that.

And I have to take issue with #3. Only her supporters just plain like her. Beyond that, people just plain don't like her. I keep getting various making-fun-of-Hillary emails from a good ol' boy friend of my, a retired machanic, and also an uncle and aunt from Cincinnati. I haven't gotten one such email about any other candidate. I've gotten at least 5 about Hillary.

Right now there is no Republican candidate setting the world on fire. It's a golden opportunity for Democrats IF they choose the right candidate. If Hillary is made the candidate, we're throwing that advantage away because independents and moderate Republicans disillusioned with the Republican Party will not vote for Hillary.

Americans want someone they feel comfortable with. Hillary just can't successfully get past that hurdle, no matter how often she pulls out that canned laughter in public. Americans want someone gifted, but with their feet on the ground. That's not Hillary, no matter how much money she's got to shape her image.

What a prescription!

Do you have a problem with that prescription?

or it might be some of the other candidates or Al Gore.

I like the three frontrunners plenty and I like Al Gore even more.

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She only gets my vote if you are right and she wins the nomination. She isn't too far away from Lieberman on the War issue. Having experience and deep pockets doesn't overcome her Hawkish stances in my book.

Dodd, Biden or Kucinich have much more political and legislative experience. Richardson has been on the razors edge of foreign policy.

Best equipped to mount a campaign? Do we really want yet another phony polarizing round over non-issues, while the real issues go ignored.

I like her. But what she represents is the opposite of what this country needs at this point in its history.

Rove himself hand picked her! The republicans agree, she is the one they WANT to run against. They Fear Biden and the K guy. (I cant spell his name)

Rove PREDICTED she would be the candidate. I can PREDICT, and with probably the same accuracy, that my state will send it's EC votes to the Republican in 08. Does that mean I want it to or "hand pick" it?

wasn't it?

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If she is the nominee, we lose the House, the Senate and certainly don't gain the White House. Period.

I support a winner for America and the World. See you in the streets tomorrow to make sure people know.

"It would be great to have a woman president," "It's two for one," or "she sounds strong." Her standing isn't based on substance.

My bet, if you were to ask the majority of those polled have no frigging idea what Hillary stands for, how she has voted or any other substantive factoid.

My bet, if you were to ask the majority of those polled have no frigging idea what Hillary stands for, how she has voted or any other substantive factoid.