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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:18 PM Original message |
Hillary more liberal then Howard Dean and Al Gore? |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't really care what the charts say |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. That's what things like these charts are for. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Charts are only as good as their input |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. These are not impersonal statistics |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. ... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. The graph is confusing me a little |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. top right to bottom left is the economic axis, bottom right to to left is social issues. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. thanks, got it now. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
41. The populist label of the bottom quadrant makes no sense then... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Try this, then |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. Calibrating "liberalness" is a very imprecise science. Perhaps that's why |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. Extremely confusing charts. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. See post #5 n/t |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. No - they are plotting a value (x,y) |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
9. The Repukes and Indeps consider Hillary to be the most liberal candidate. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. That's what I've been saying, |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
12. Hillary is a solid Liberal Democrat |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. Which is why she will lose. Who was the last solid Liberal Democrat to win the White House? |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. Charts measuring political ideaology are fairly useless IMO |
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sandrakae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
14. This is just wrong. Hilary is a little right of center. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Asserting your opinion doesn't make it true. |
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sandrakae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. That goes for you too. |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
16. Uh . . . OK. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
17. rofl |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
19. THE TESTS DIFFER BY PERSON |
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seasat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
20. Interesting, Richardson scores the same as Dean, Kerry, and Gore |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Kerry was not "graded" by the same test as the 2008 people |
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seasat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I agree, the OnTheIssues site is very subjective. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Well... |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
24. It astounds me that some DUers refuse to accept the fact that Hillary Clinton is |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:51 AM Response to Reply #24 |
34. She IS very liberal. Her stand on domestic issues are awesome. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
26. Gore's a moderate. Dean's a moderate. Edwards too. I'm shocked anyone doesn't think this. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. You might be too smart |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I agree 100% with your assesment |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
31. Help!! I fell off the left corner of the graph!!! |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
33. You need a disclaimer, past performance is no guarantee of future results. n/t |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
35. Wow, this is some powerfull BS (check out the info inside) |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:04 AM Response to Original message |
36. Those are the most ridiculous charts I've ever seen. n/t |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
38. One major problem with that graph... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
39. I think "liberal" has lost a clear, agreed upon definition. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I've always disagreed with Political Compass's positions for both the Dem and Puke Candidates. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I think Gravel with his flat tax proposals is a LOT farther to the right of where he is too... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. The U.S. is a law unto herself. |
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