All the DU AMATEUR PUNDITS proclaiming the race over need to take their meds!

Folks this shit has just gotten silly. First I see Hillary has it locked up and Barack should just give it up, then I see posts that Hillary's only challenge is Edwards. Last I saw NOBODY has voted yet, and while national polls show Hillary far ahead there are many state-by-state polls that show Barack in the lead including a new NEWSWEEK POLL that shows Obama leading IOWA.

I don't care who your candidate is, POLLS don't vote, ask Howard Dean about that.

The obvious motivation of any DUer proclaiming this race over for any candidate is simple, its to DEMORALIZE the opposition, you know the very opposition that candidates must court for the general election.

I'm not going to blame one camp over the other because everyone is doing it, but just be mindful of it and more importantly don't fall for it.

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It's up to the opposition whether they buy into it or not.

. . .its a completely different thing is these are the very supporters you are going to need to win in the general election.

And, as for Howard Dean..he may not be the president of the US but he's the Chairman of the DNC and he's doing an amazing job..I don't care what the fucking dlc says.

responded to with "HRC can't win, she's the GOP's dream candidate, blah, blah, bullshit."

It's all crap.

Listen to what the candidates say, judge them on their merits, do your own research, and make up your OWN mind.

Don't listen to some anonymous asshole posting on a political forum--don't believe everything you read, either for or against a given candidate, especially if it is put forth by a supporter of a rival.

You can't trust anyone but yourself to filter that shit...and if you do, you've only yourself to blame if you make a bad choice.

I'm in no hurry to make up my mind. I honestly feel that ANY Democrat is better than the Finest Republican in the USA, thus, I don't have any urgency to get behind a particular candidate now. Unless, of course, Gore hops in....

by the candidate's supporters REFLECTS a great deal that comes back to integrity and moral character - and it's all BAD. :(

It is done by tacticians like Karl Rove when they have a VACUOUS sense of values or other reasons for people to support them. It is aligned with the "rule by fear" type of mentality that we have in place now. The though is that many fear uncertainty out there (especially the uninformed) and therefore if one provides some proclaimed "certainty", it will help those that don't want to deal with details a way of feeling "safe".

being crammed our throats. She will suffer from being out front so long. Nothing against her, its the nature of American consumerism. We'll all be ready to move along to something fresher by Jan/Feb.

. . .and as long as he is in, he is my ONLY OPTION no matter what the DU AMATEUR PUNDITS (DAP) say.

because she leading in the polls, but she's not inevitable yet. FWIW, I think Obama's got to step it up a little bit even though Edwards may lose some votes since he's going to public spending. It's still an open race IMO, I wouldn't call winners/losers yet.

It ain't over till it's over. But, the harder they come the harder they fall. I would vote for HRC if she is our nom and I think she'd wipe the floor with any gop-dope, but I think the tide will turn before Jan.

If we as grass roots can support him and help him with it, what could be a better recipe to help promote real and TRUE national public campaign financing reform than his ability to win with it! And if he could subsequently show that he's not a tool of the special interests by not being beholden to them for campaign donations and his subsequent leadership efforts, then I think many Americans would flock to the idea of fixing the K-Street problem FOR GOOD!

There are three "meta" issues that stand in the way of progressive gains: the current campaign finance system, the vulnerability of voting machines and voter rolls, and the spineless media. Fixing any one of these would go a long way toward preserving our democracy. :patriot:

as well as instant runoff voting (to help us have third party choices)...

Almost every other reasonably democratic country now can put through a no-confidence vote or something like that to tell those in power that they aren't happy with what's going on in the government. We need some sort of means for the people to tell those in power with TEETH in it to do something like impeachment to fix a problem like we have now so obviously.

Face it, if Oprah can't sell your product, no one can.

. . .she has not even campaigned for him, all she did thus far was host a fundraiser.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-obama_finalsep09,0,2949536.story?coll=chi-newsopinion-utl



Yeah, there "I" go again...

Remember your word "court" when Hillary gets the nod. Then start thinking about your "Supreme Court".

. . .when it comes to fund-raising and other grassroots activities that is another thing.

Using bogus polls to try to influence public opinion.

who the hell knows what will happen between now and January, who will have a Macaca moment, who will drop out due to lack of $$$, what other stories will show up?

I know who i'm voting for but should that candidate drop out then i have plan b, should that one go, yup, plan c.