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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:12 PM
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Clinton Blocks Obama at Nearly Every Turn
This was the day Barack Obama intended to seize the initiative in the Democratic presidential race with an address highlighting the fifth anniversary of his speech opposing the Iraq war. But before he could take the stage in Chicago, Hillary Clinton sought to steal the spotlight by announcing her big third-quarter fundraising report.

The juxtaposition of the two events captured the dynamic of the Democratic race through the first nine months of the year, as the Clinton machine continues to grind down the opposition and Obama continues to look for openings to get around her.

Clinton's advisers have said for months that many of her donors would wait until it really counted to contribute. They said that when Obama raised more money for the primaries than Clinton in both the first and second quarters of the year. In the third quarter, the most difficult of the year in which to raise money, Obama once again set a very high bar -- raising at least $20 million, $19 million of that for the primaries.

Clinton has managed to block Obama at almost every turn. His effort this week to resurrect his early opposition to the war comes as Clinton appears to have neutralized Iraq as a significant obstacle to her nomination.

At the beginning of the year, Iraq appeared to be a potentially serious impediment because of her vote for the 2002 resolution authorizing President Bush to take the country to war. Obama's opposition to the war and John Edwards's decision to renounce his own vote for the 2002 resolution proved attractive counterpoints for antiwar Democrats.

Clinton also began the year reluctant to embrace a timetable for withdrawing troops from Iraq. Other candidates offered explicit plans. That, too, appeared to provide an opening to pull Clinton down over the early months of the campaign.

But every poll available suggests that Clinton has taken her 2002 vote off the table. Opponents of the war are more likely to favor Clinton as the Democratic nomination than any other candidate. Those looking for a way out of Iraq see her as more capable of providing an exit strategy than any of her opponents.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/10/02/post_106.html?hpid=topnews
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:14 PM
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1. Really. I'm watching Obama give his speech right now.
The day's not over yet.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:24 PM
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2. Where Are These Poll Numbers Coming From - Who Is Being Polled.....
when talking to people - I can't find anyone that supports Hillary. I here support for Obama, Edwards, Richardson and even Kucinich but I don't hear anyone supporting Hillary. The only thing I hear people saying is if she wins the nomination they will support her but before that they support other Dem candidates.

I question the Poll numbers. I'm wondering if we're being fed these numbers - cause that's who the Repugs would like to run against.

Is anyone else out there suspicious like me?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:29 PM
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3. that meme again? OK
when talking to people - I can't find anyone that supports Obama, Edwards, Richardson or even Kucinich. I hear support for Clinton but I don't hear anyone supporting Obama, Edwards, Richardson or even Kucinich.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:38 PM
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5. I done an informal poll with 8 of my peers today, none even heard of Kucinich, Edwards comments
were very negative and Obama was mild but polite, Hillary got 5 out 8 positive.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:40 PM
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7. Here is a long list of Clinton supportrs:
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 06:48 PM by MGKrebs
http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?key=FTN9X&txtState=GA&txtCand=clinton&txt2008=Y&Order=A

And just from Georgia!

You can check your own zip code here and see if any of your neighbors have "supported" Clinton:

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/index.asp

edit: It's possible that you are exhibiting a behavior pattern that compels people to refrain from admitting to you that they may support Clinton.

Or, the pollsters could be shooting a gas through the phone that hypnotizes people and makes them say things they don't mean.

Or, the Tri-Lateral Commission could actually own ALL of the polling companies and is directing the results from Geneve.

I'm suspicious too. No one has called ME. I wonder if these polls are really being done at all.

(disclaimer: Actually, I have been called. I was just trying to make a point there.)



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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:52 PM
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9. Thanks For The Link......
I checked my zipcode and just taking into consideration the presidential candidates we all know - this is what I found for my zipcode donors:

McCain - 1
Richardson - 1
Brownback - 3
Biden - 3
Edwards - 3
Obama - 6

Didn't see Clinton's name on this list yet.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:05 PM
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10. Well that explains it.
There aren't any Clinton supporters in your neighborhood, but they are clearly out there in other neighborhoods. Here's a few from zip code 30305 (Buckhead/Atlanta):

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?key=byxx6&txtState=(all%20states)&txtZip=30305&txtCand=clinton&txt2008=Y&Order=N

And I can say that I run into Clinton supporters that aren't even on this list!
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:30 PM
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4. Labor, leaders
of any group expecting any voice or clout are looking for the bandwagon and not who is on it. it defies reason to think Clinton is the most able and likely to extract us and our literally damned oil companies from the cookie jar or end the embroilment with other Israeli enemies. What we are in for may be worse than Iraq itself. Disaster and entrenchment everywhere with DLC stealth democracy everywhere impotent, risible and invisible in benefit.

WAPO sucks as bad as anyone in the MSM when it comes to doing us all in and inviting us to sell our souls along the sweet path to submission. War criminals certainly wish that Iraq is off the table and that includes lying war hawks for money.

Obama's money superiority being checked is the ONLY issue that decides the democratic choice? How very GOP.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:39 PM
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6. I'm glad you are having a good day, wyldie. You deserve it.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:41 PM
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8. She is extremely strong and clever. I am a happy supporter
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