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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:13 PM
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McAuliffe (Hillary spokesperson): Hillary's Iraq position due to her gender.
http://iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1257

Garden-Monheit said she disliked Clinton's war vote. McAuliffe declared that under no circumstances would she take back her vote. "A woman?" he almost yelled. "Can you imagine?"



Iowa Independent has verified from three other attendees of the event that McAuliffe was quoted accurately. Ironically, those attendees also told us that before discussing the connection between Clinton's position on her war vote and her gender, McAuliffe noted that he could only speak so candidly because there were no reporters present -- or so he thought.


I wonder if she'll bomb Iran because she's a woman. Can you imagine?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:16 PM
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1. I guess we give a free pass to her because she is a woman...well
that's good politics..
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:17 PM
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2. Fuck.
Just fuck it. Someone shoot me if this is the best we can do. :banghead:
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:19 PM
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3. Having McAuliffe on her side makes me question her judgement . . .
He's as bad as Rove when it comes to the "winning isn't everything -- it's the *only* thing" mentality that has led this country into such a series of disasters.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:22 PM
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4. Terry McAuliffe? She has this pinhead running her campaign?
Unbelievable. It's like she is doing everything she can think of to keep me from supporting her.

How many other dolts does she have involved in her campaign?

Never mind. I don't really want to know.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:24 PM
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5. I would pay Terry McAwful to campaign
for my opponent.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:29 PM
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10. What a team to pick
McAuliffe, especially with his campaign finance problems,
Berger, official or not
Carville, official or not
Mark Penn
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:39 PM
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15. People with experience running or working in the Whitehouse
yeah, I'm sure she is really hurting for talented and experienced help or advice.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:40 PM
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17. She hired the architect of The Surge
and its biggest media cheerleader.

She's just not that into good policy.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:43 PM
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19. Hey, vote your conscious
and if you ever run for office, I'm sure you will hire people you think are qualified to do a particular job too. Or maybe you will just hire people who agree with every policy position you have? Something to think about for the future there.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:25 PM
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6. This is an erroneous analysis by McAuliffe. n/t
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:26 PM
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7. Why? Do you have closer access to Hillary than
the former DNC chair and one of her biggest fundraisers?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:31 PM
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11. He's making shit up to sound all knowing
Or the reporter was off base all together. There is no mention of any discussion with Hillary.

Hillary should not apologize for being lied to. Period.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:38 PM
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13. So, it's not possible that he actually knows
Hillary and how she makes her decisions.

P.S. The reporter verified the quote with three different witnesses. That dog won't hunt.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:40 PM
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The explanation he gave is ridiculous. n/t
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:27 PM
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8. Also...the subject line and the headline on the article are inaccurate...
Nowhere does it say she voted for the IWR because she was a woman...

And in fact, McAuliffe was not working for Hillary when that vote was taken...

He made a stupid shorthand political observation that was neither authorized by Hillary or correct?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:29 PM
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9. He's saying her current posture is determined by her gender.
Maybe she really did trust Bush.

We know she wanted a war with Iraq--after all, as her supporters tell us, she has never opposed this war.

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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:39 PM
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16. I agree with your comments -
This is what comes from having too many campaign spokespersons (who frankly have their own agendas).

I'm sure McAuliffe will be answering to the candidate for this comment.

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:40 PM
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18. "You have failed me for the last time, McAwful." eom
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:37 PM
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12. Wow! I didn't think mccauiff was that
big of a sexist! Good ol' boys and all that but come on, terror, this IS the 21st century. :silly:

Obviously, according to terry she can't change her mind..Do we now know why she didn't FUCKING APOLOGIZE? Is it really that simple? Whoa..

Ooops, I see where terry thought there would be no "reporters" there.

Kinda like jeb bush not knowing the mic was on when he said he "had a devious plan".
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:38 PM
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14. oh, please! what a really dumb thing to say by McAuliffe
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:54 PM
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20. I never agree with McAuliffe but this time I will
First, on "taking back her vote".

For some progressives this is an issue but not only will it not be in a General Election, doing so could hurt a candidate. It is NOT an issue voters care about or frankly, want to be reminded of. Remember most people bought into the whole WMD line and no, oddly enough, they don't like to be told they were stupid for doing so. They would rather forget the whole thing and not be reminded that their leaders were as stupid as they were by "taking it back". They would rather believe that they, and their candidates, were "mislead". Someone trumpeting how super smart they were to know better, and by inference how stupid those who didn't are, ain't going to make them feel warm and fuzzy.

Second, damn straight as a woman she feels the need to be a "hawk", even if it is nothing but talk and posturing. I have read countless times how people don't think a woman can win, and then play dumb when she does what she has to do to convince people she is tougher than the toughest ass out there, which is totally necessary for a woman to be the first President during an actual WAR. Things like compassion and diplomacy are not only a given with a woman, they can be viewed as a weakness. She doesn't have to bomb anyone but she has to convince people she would if she had to. In fact, I believe that is the entire reason for her recent vote.



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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:04 PM
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21. is he is the drunk guy in the bar
who thinks everyone buys his bullshit? yes terry- everyone thinks you are the coolest person in the room
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