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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:32 PM
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What is "negative campaigning"?
Obama has been pointing out the differences between himself and Clinton on various issues. How does this constitute "negative campaigning"?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:33 PM
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1. Negative campainging is criticizing your opponent period.
There are certainly degrees to it.

Negative campaigning is not necessarily mud slinging.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:38 PM
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2. Maybe that's the problem; negative campaigning has become
identified with mud slinging. I would expect a lot of negative campaigning come the general election; I would be shocked if the Democratic candidate goes around telling people what a great job the Republicans have done the last 8 years!
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:50 PM
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7. I think its certainly part of the problem.
Its part of the game. The frontrunner plays nice while those trailing walk a tight rope of what is criticism and what is mud slinging.

But the real nasty negative campaigning is stuff we don't see like push polling.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:49 PM
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6. I don't agree
I think "negative" campaigning is the lie and distort model.
Everything else, to me, is just campaigning.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:51 PM
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8. Fair enough.
I still see it as a matter of degrees.

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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:55 PM
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10. Yup. For example
there is a huge degree of difference on the "distort" continuim...

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:44 PM
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3. I haven't seen anything too bad yet this time around.
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 06:44 PM by Forkboy
If you want negative think "Willie Horton" or the entire Kerry Healey run for Governor of Mass last year. :)
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:55 PM
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9. Where would the implication that "my opponent lacks experience" fit in? nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:04 PM
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That's pretty tame, actually. A common charge during campaign season.
:shrug:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:45 PM
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4. in my own experience it's the under the radar leave no fingerprints personal
attacks, pointing out a difference in policy is not negative.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:48 PM
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5. Obama hasn't done anything that would qualify as negative, as the term is usually used.
In VA they have some appalling state delegate ads on TV right now that help me maintain perspective on what negative means.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:59 PM
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11. But in that case, when the Clinton campaign accused the Obama campaign
of going negative, is that a form of mud slinging?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:04 PM
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12. No. It's all harmless. This stuff is super-mild by modern standards
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:49 PM
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13. It points out what's negative about one's opponent, not simply
what's positive about yourself.

It's a good thing. Otherwise the best we would get is subtle hints about why Candidate M may have some problems. We'd only get the best face from each candidate, unless newspapers were allowed to dig.

Take the entire Iraq War Resolution business. Pointing out that somebody voted for it would be negative campaigning. Not mud slinging. And I think it's something that should be pointed out. Same for SCHIP voting, or any other position on a substantive issue that isn't necessarily what a candidate thinks the target audience wants to agree with.

Without either negative reporting or negative campaigning, such things would be off limits. You might have Candidate L saying, "I did not vote for the IWR", but that would be about the end of it. If nobody else says one way or the other, that candidate would either have to go negative, or jump up and down waiting for people to get what's *really* being said: "I said **I** didn't vote for the IWR, you damned fools, why don't you force the others to say if they did or check Thomas!?!"

Negative campaigning is also useful for having one candidate's research team point out flaws in another candidate's proposals. Don't like Biden's education plan, fine, say what you don't like about it. Oops ... that's negative. "Positive" would only involve Biden saying how good it is, possibly with an accompanying chorus.

I like negative campaigning because it raises more substantive issues and clarifies differences between candidates more than any other kind. Mud-slinging, an extreme form, does little to clarify issues or candidates' views, and is usually best described as ad hominem or sensationalist (or false, a different kettle of worms). Purely positive campaigning is mostly fluff, or not readily distinguishable from fluff.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 08:25 PM
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14. All the candidates with R's beside their names have.
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