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Herman Munster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:46 AM Original message |
In case you missed it, Hillary ripped Obama a new ass on Iran today |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. This is a dumb thing to fight him on |
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Herman Munster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. no |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. "he has no credibility" "absentee do-nothing" |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Sorry |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #10 |
47. Hillary politics = Bush politics - I see no difference between the two. |
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Alizaryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. That's where I am at this point too. |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
66. Cute but stupid |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. He didn't "bother" to vote for it because it wasn't supposed to be voted on |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Forget the vote |
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Alizaryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. He has stated that it is one of the problems |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 06:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
17. OBAMA (the Sentor NOT voting) is being critical of Clinton!! He brings it up , NOT clinton. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #17 |
49. Uh, you do understand that him not voting doesn't mean he would have also voted for it? |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
50. Hillary was wrong to vote for the Iraq war, an Iran war, and criticizing Obama. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
56. Hypocrisy is a good topic in a political campaign, no? |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. Ball's in Obama's court now. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
3. excuse me while I spew |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
29. So, is all your BS.. |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
5. hillaryclinton.com is your source? |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. It's a statement from her campaign |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
75. wtf? |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
6. apparently in Shillary's world not voting is worse than voting for an escalation towards Iran War |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Not voting means you are a wuss. n/t |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 06:31 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I think we've had enough tough guy talk to last a lifetime over the last seven years. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. What escalation? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
77. The "avalanche" of non-binding resolutions calling for diplomacy with Iran |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
82. Olbermann used the "military instruments" phrase the other night |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 06:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. Tell me why he should be critical ot others when he does NOT bother to show up and do his work? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #6 |
39. I can't speak for her world |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
11. Good one. I've been saying this for a week now. |
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TheUniverse (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
13. Politics of Hope... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 06:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. The HOPE slogan is Obama's |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
15. This surprizes me--his NOT being involved at all. He should not complain since |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
16. Rah |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
20. Rather disingenuous arguments |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Well, it seems to me that if Obama made such an issue of HC's vote on Iraq, he should make every |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. I agree that a vote would have been better than,,, |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
64. Is it bad in your view because it is suspect, being a repub. initiative? |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #64 |
79. It is bad in my view because it is |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. An excellent point! So it looks like HC and other Dems were in a |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
21. I disapprove of the title of your OP |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #21 |
43. I agree. The level of discourse in this forum is often regrettable... |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
22. So she's criticizing him for not being against something she voted for? |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 07:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. No she isn't. She is simply discrediting his pomp because he didn't care enough to vote either way. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #24 |
44. Bullshit. That's exactly what she's doing. It's the same shit Rush, Sean, and Bush do. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. no silly, but of course you know this: she was responding to his criticism |
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jmp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
23. But she voted FOR it. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 07:41 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. "Whatever Obama didn't do" from anti-Pelosi screamers is a frail and transparent argument. |
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jmp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Pelosi's problem is what she DOES do ... |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Not to insult you, but you're flopping around like a fish out of water. |
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jmp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Lying about the facts does not change them. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
65. What assertion did I make that blew up in my face? You're wrong. |
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ihelpu2see (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
26. Hillary should have done the same thing as Obama, but her excuse is "Its non-binding" |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
27. you're kiLLing me |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
30. Hillary throws the ball, the lapdogs chase it. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
34. Disappointed in Durbin but also disappointed in Obama |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. How so? |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. One would hope that as a senator he would be in better touch |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. "Made the effort to get back to DC" |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #45 |
58. How long does it take to fly back to DC from NH |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
35. Good comeback |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
38. Obama is not doing the job he is being paid to do (representing his constituents) if he can't |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. True in principle, but not very realistic |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. You do know that Reid told him the vote wasn't going to take place that day, right? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Do you have a link to what Reid said? |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. No. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Thanks, I'll try to find it. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. My understanding is that the day before Obama left Harry Reid took the vote off the table. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Thanks, I can't find his quotes, only that he tabled the vote. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. I remember the quote |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #61 |
78. Sounds like the "promise" the cop made to Sen Widestance to keep it private |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #48 |
63. I found a person who wrote this, but I don't know where she got it from: |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
70. Here's a link |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Thanks. That's pretty clear, |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
53. So you criticize Obama for attack politics, in an OP in which you say Hillary ripped Obama a new ass |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
57. So Obama is playing politics, Durbin speaks for Obama, and Hillary isn't a war-monger. |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
59. Shame on both of them. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
62. I'm not seeing said ass ripping. |
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Semper_FiFi (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
67. K&R. Obama is asleep at the wheel yet still is critical of others who are active. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
68. What possible good is advanced by the title of this OP? |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
69. K&R, Obama's smear campaign against Hillary is shameless. |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #69 |
80. Was that meant as sarcasm? n/t |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Nope. nt. |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Too bad n/t |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
74. Oooh, I really hope Obama goes after the issues Hillary has been silent on |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #74 |
85. It is better than not having a voting record |
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SergeyDovlatov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
86. Dumb thing to do |
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