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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 02:52 AM
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When Hillary becomes president will she dismantle Bush's facist machine ...
or keep it going so she can use it to strengthen her own power?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 02:54 AM
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1. HAHAHAHAHAHA!
She'll make it "better". I leave it to your imagination just what that will mean.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:29 AM
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24. Obama has already stated, he will NOT prosecute Bush & Cheney if he's elected..
check!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 06:54 PM
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29. Why do you twist EVERYTHING Obama does and says?
That's not what he said at all.

He said he would not go after them, but if the investigatory committees come up with dirt, it's go time.

Tell the truth.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 03:04 AM
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2. Yup....
She is nothing more than a quasi-neocon/centrist....
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:16 AM
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9. Absolutely ridiculous
Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 04:36 AM by ...of J.Temperance
Hillary is a "quasi-neocon"

Listen to yourself, if you only knew how silly you come across to other people.


On Edit: IF your comment about Hillary being a "quasi-neocon" was you being sarcastic....then I apologize for not immediately getting your intended sarcasm, I'm usually looking for the sarcasm emoticon being used you see.

IF your comment about Hillary being a "quasi-neocon" WASN'T you being sarcastic, then my original comment stands, about how silly your comment makes you look to other people.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 06:37 AM
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16. reckless disregard for the truth, pretty much sums up your post. NT
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 03:16 AM
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3. At the end of her first term, she will anounce that dismantling Bush's fascist machine
is her top _second term_ priority.

Just a guess.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 03:59 AM
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4. Switzerland??
So what brings you here to DU??
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:03 AM
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5. The fact that I'm a US citizen and a registered Democrat.
:hi:
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:12 AM
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6. Ohhh....
I been to Switzerland. Lausanne and Geneva so beautiful. Glad you can be a part of the process...... :)
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:17 AM
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10. I was in Lausanne in May,
but it was a quiet time, because my French sucks. :rofl:
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:30 AM
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11. Typical American...
Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 04:34 AM by physioex
Living in a foreign land and can't learn the culture.... :rofl:

So what do you do in Switzerland?

On Edit: I don't know if you watch tennis but Roger Federer is my favorite player. :)
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:33 AM
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12. We live in the Italian-speaking part,
thus my horrible French. :blush:

I'm a painter. :hi:
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:48 AM
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13. Cool....
Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 04:51 AM by physioex
You should set up a website of your works and have it in your profile.

On Edit: Going to bed. Good Nite :hi:
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:27 AM
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21. Oooh, that is cool.
Give my regards to Wesley. Haven't seen him around lately.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:39 AM
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25. Is it against the GD:P rules
for me to give you a :hug: ?

I'll give CMW your regards. He's avoiding us right now, I think. Can't say that I blame him. :rofl:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:13 AM
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7. IMO, HRC will "keep it going so she can use it to strengthen her own power" + DLC n/t
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:15 AM
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8. The swipes at the DLC and Hillary are getting
Incredibly tedious....change the record for goodness sake, it broke AGES ago.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:54 AM
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14. Truth will not ever change. :-) n/t
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 06:39 AM
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17. Who's truth?
It has already been pointed out that the truth in some threads is non existent in some threads here. I remember one just a couple of days ago that you agreed with. So forgive me if I laugh at what you call the truth.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:19 AM
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20. It seems that where ever I go, you are there ... please, we must stop meeting like this - what would
the neighbors say? :blush: :P
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 07:45 PM
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30. Since when does one's opinion equal the truth?
Isn't thinking one has a monopoly on truth a sign of mental illness?

:yoiks:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 06:16 AM
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15. BUT WAIT! Progressive groups give her an extremely high rating. Are these groups dumb?
Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 06:17 AM by Perry Logan
Here's a post from Lirwin2 which knocks silly statements about Hillary into a crocked hat:

The following are polls from progressive groups, rating Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, on how often they vote for progressive issues. For each group, the percentage on the left is right is Obama's score. Sources: http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011142.php
===============================================================================================================================Hillary Clinton Vs. Barack Obama (progressivepunch)
Overall Progressive Score: 92% 90%
Aid to Less Advantaged People at Home and Abroad: 98% 97%
Corporate Subsidies 100% N/A
Education, Humanities and the Arts 88% 100%
Environment 92% 100%
Fair Taxation 97% 100%
Family Planning 88% 80%
Government Checks on Corporate Power 95% 97%
Healthcare 98% 94%
Housing 100% 100%
Human Rights & Civil Liberties 82% 77%
Justice for All: Civil and Criminal 94% 91%
Labor Rights 91% 91%
Making Government Work for Everyone, Not Just the Rich or Powerful 94% 90%
War and Peace 80% 86%
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 07:03 AM
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18. Because pushing to replace progressives with corporatists in primaries isn't counted in the ratings.
Because, the things she does and doesn't do outside of a vote on something that she knows whether it will pass or not aren't counted.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 07:58 PM
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32. The hillary-haters just make stupid shit up or dig up crap conspiracy theories.
Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 07:58 PM by Odin2005
I posted a link to site giving data on the positions of the candidates and other politicians and plotted then on a chart.

http://www.issues2000.org/default.htm

Here is Senator Clinton:





Compare that to, say, Joe Lieberman:






Or her husband:






Here's Kucinich:






Now can we quit bashing Hillary, please?
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IADEMO2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 07:16 AM
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19. Think about the 2000 election before posting
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:29 AM
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22. Obama will do it starting in Jan 09.
So don't worry.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 01:42 PM
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27. More from the Cult of Inevitability
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:29 AM
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23. don't know. that's the risk. Gore definitely would.
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SergeyDovlatov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:50 AM
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26. she voted for Patriot Act. What do you think she is going to do?
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 06:51 PM
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28. When
IMO if Senator Clinto is elected President of the United States, she will integrate every bit of the former regimes extra legal organizations into her administrations. When it comes to the pursuit of political power, beware of this person, for her all is fair game.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 07:57 PM
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31. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely -- Lord Acton
The fact that they haven't supported impeachment tells me that they have no intention of restoring the Republic.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 08:03 PM
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33. her highness will not ascend to the throne.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 01:11 AM
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34. Probably Not!!!!
Because she will always be campaigning and will continue being right of center to get re-elected.

Be afraid, be very afraid!!!!
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