Matthew 7:3 (Look It Up) By Cindy Sheehan

Matthew 7:3 (Look It Up)
By Cindy Sheehan

10/15/07 "ICH" -- - -It is truly touching the way First Lady Laura Bush cares about the people of Burma and is using her officiousness (oops…I think that may be the wrong word…or is it?) to bring attention to the admittedly horrible situation there. There are very few people in the world that would not sympathize with or become outraged when monks are beaten and killed because they protested high gas prices.

Wait a minute…they were protesting high gas prices? Gas? Hmmm…what does that tell us? As Democracy Now! Host, Amy Goodman has written, http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/10/08/4393/ Chevron is a major player in that country’s destabilization because the gas that travels in its pipeline supports the military junta. Why, when there is trouble around the world a US oil company is usually behind it? And isn’t it amazing that a former member of Chevron’s board is our Secretary of State and a former Unocal employee is now president of Afghanistan? In my opinion oil based diplomacy is centered on destruction and tyranny and nothing positive has ever come from it.

I understand Laura’s concern for Burma and its brutal oppression under the military junta. I have those same concerns. However, a recent article in WaPo extolling Laura’s deep humanitarian concern mentions that she has visited 68 countries in her tenure as First Lady. I wonder if she has been to Iraq? I wonder if she has visited the millions of Iraqi and Palestinian refugees in Jordan and Syria who have been forced from their country by her husband’s tragic policies?

I wonder if Laura has read the most recent studies that say over a million Iraqis have been killed since her husband’s “shocking and awful” on March 20. 2003? Does she feel the same compassion and concern for a country that has been plunged into violence and chaos by the person who sleeps (and very well by his own admission) right next to her every night?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18561.htm

am responsible for slavery, I best keep quiet..

Ms. Sheehan writings

"lazer47 is responsible for slavery."

As I said, utter nonsense.

"The Democrats are the party of slavery and were the party that started every war in the 20th century, except the other Bush debacle. The Federal Reserve, permanent federal income taxes, not one but two World Wars, Japanese concentration camps, and not one but two atom bombs dropped on the innocent citizens of Japan -- all brought to us via the Democrats. "

http://www.rightiswrong.com/article.php?artID=819

It's not obtuse to point out that she wasn't talking about you, but that you've taken that piece out of context and twisted it to make it personal. What should I call that effort of yours?

Hyperbole? Possibly. Dishonesty? Without a doubt.

Perhaps you have no identity outside the Democratic Party and assume that anything said about, or done to or for, the Democratic Party by anyone is "all about you." That would also be juvenile. It's normal, developmentally speaking, for a 2 year-old to see himself as the center, with the world revolving around him and his needs and wants. In the normal developmental progression, a child slowly begins to see himself as a part of the world, rather than as THE world. By adulthood, we should know that each of us is but a single nanofraction of the whole.

Asserting that her statements about the party's history on slavery and war were all about you, during your lifetime, is flat out NONSENSE.

As far as her statements go, you can dislike them: you can perceive them as "disloyal" or just as "bad press." If you want to dispute their accuracy, I think you should provide some factual evidence to back up your assertions.

It's ok, as a Democrat, to be aware of the party's history, and the party's flaws as well as strengths. Laudable, even.

The Democratic Party has a long, rich history, and has not always championed the highest ideals.

The fact is that in the 19th century the Democratic Party was pro-slavery.

Perhaps she could have reworded her assertion to say that 20th century wars were begun under democratic presidents, rather than started "by democrats;" that distances/softens it a bit, I guess.

Gulf War I: Bush I. Gulf War II: Bush II. Reagan had U.S. troops involved in several multi-national actions around the world, but I don't think they qualify as wars.

WWI? Wilson (D)
WWII? Roosevelt (D)
Korea? Truman (D)
Viet Nam? Johnson (D)

The Balkans? Clinton (D)

You can disagree with the judgment inferred by her statements; if you're going to express that disagreement, you might want to try using some substantive evidence and reasoning to do so.

That is NOT a progressive stance. It's straight out LaRouchian.

The point of my post/s in this thread are not to defend Sheehan, but to point out our utterly ludicrous the accusation I responded to is.

While I respect Sheehan and support her efforts, I have no need to "defend" her from you, lol. That serves no constructive purpose.

Neither will I be drawn into a battle over Sheehan. I have no interest in providing fodder or kicks for that weapon of mass distraction.

Just like the Republicans are still the party of civil right, right? Democrats WERE the party of slavery, and the modern democratic party is nothing of the sort, which is exactly what Sheehan is implying.

That "implying" thing. Perhaps you are correct; or, perhaps, you aren't interpreting the statement correctly. Purposefully, or not.

See post # 12.

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Shame on you! :rofl:

Why bother attacking bush by proxy. Attacking laura will actually cause more people (if they even see it) to dismiss what she's saying than attract people to her pov. She's preaching to an ever shrinking constituency.