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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:56 AM Original message |
Clinton Pollster Predicts Defection Of GOP Women |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. Where are Democratic women going to go? |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Members of the Democratic party who are women will vote the party choice. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
23. Yeah! |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
24. Of course I do. |
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dugggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
48. Are you saying we democrats vote like robots? |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Democrats usually for for Democrats in the |
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dugggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
65. But the republicans don't follow that pattern, is that it? |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. That didn't appear to be "all you were saying" |
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dugggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #72 |
85. Conclusion: there are crossover votes in every election n/t |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
81. I think the implication was that Democrats, by definition vote for Democrats |
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dugggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. I understand that, but I got the impression from that post |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. To hell if they don't change |
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dugggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
91. They could go where they went in 1984 n/t |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. ah! The honorable Mark Penn with the sleazy associations.Hillary's very own Rove. |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
3. That is why they will have Mitt and a possible female VP as their ticket. n/t |
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dugggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
94. Best post of the day!! |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
5. Very interesting. n/t |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. A possible Mitt/Melinda Gates combo to offset Hillary/K Sebelius. n/t |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
6. Yeah, women are such purely emotional creatures |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. fire him because he's pointing out a trend? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. "a trend" |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
27. uh, yeah. A trend. No one gives a rat's ass about the numerous Repug women you hang with |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Awe, and here I thought you cared? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. No, so go cry on the shoulders of your Republican women friends |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. heehee! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
64. Oh, your being catty now ... very atypical of a man ... Mark Penn would not approve. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. and, as always, you're running away from your statements |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
82. Sure, we all have anecdotal evidence... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Fire him because he's a sexis pig |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. because he's correct or because you just don't want people saying it? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
29. No because he is a slimy "union busting Blackwater defending pig. But Hillary likes him! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. ...but not because of his polling on women voters? That is what the thread is about. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
68. My point is his credibility is questionable on women voters and anything else.He would say or do |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. no it isn't |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #70 |
89. Lacking a moral compass makes one a better pollster? Wow! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:15 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. yep. WOW! |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. meh. I'm male and the symbolism of a female president appeals to me. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Yes, ask the Brits what they thought of their "iron lady" war horse |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
49. Which has what to do with Hillary Clinton? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Do the words "Kyl-Lieberman" and "Iran" mean anything to you? n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. not as it applies to Margaret Thatcher. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. "Iron Lady" is her mantra of the day.. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. It makes perfect sense, HRC has repeatedly said that she admires Brittan's "iron lady" |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. so, how many times can you cite her doing that? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. You're off your game today wyldwolf. Here ya go ... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. So your definition of "repeatedly" is one reference? Given your habit of exageration... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
78. It's sourced and it proves that your heroine was thinking of the coveted Presidency back in 2003. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. So there is a problem with thinking of running for President several years before you do? |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. I get emotional as a Democrat about our wins . If Clinton |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Would you do the same thing if, say, Ann Coulter was running |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I can't imagine why you would even compare the two. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Hillary Clinton is not Ann Coulter. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
92. FWIW, I agree with you. I freely admit that the whole aspect... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. I'd rather vote for Sarah Silverman than "an iron lady" - it shames my gender. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
7. Bookmark this thread. Watch for Republicans to suppress the female vote in 2008. |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Good point. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #7 |
25. The way to offset that is to vote in every election - even those |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
34. That is absurd. My mother was active in republican wives clubs. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #34 |
47. so your mother was one of the Republican women you hung with? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. You're so damn cute wyldwolf ... you never surrender but that hole's getting real deep. n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. what hole is that? |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
8. I believe he's right. nt |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
10. I know some examples of those GOP women. |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
11. Women who vote Reep are fools |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. And many people forget the 1st rule of republican politics, moderate or right? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #20 |
39. Did your Repug women friends tell you that? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. I have republican acquaintances as I live in a community of mostly military, government or retired .... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. ...and they told you about the "First Rule?" |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Hey, I know you are chiding me, but because I'm the one black sheep of my family |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #50 |
59. so your "feel" for the Republican women's community gave you that "1st Rule" knowledge? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Now you're just being snotty. Game over. :( n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. for you it is. You won't even say where you got that silly "1st Rule" from |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
16. Is this good news for Democrats? |
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Rhythm and Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
17. If that's correct, does it imply a defection of Democratic males? |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
19. How many here cannot understand how any gay person can be Republican?...nt |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
41. But, thats against the laws of the universe! |
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Semper_FiFi (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
83. I find it inconceivable! n/t |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
21. It's true. 24 GOP women threaten to vote for her |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Yes, I think they're rioting out in the Cornfields of Nebraska. |
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dugggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
45. Penn is wrong....it will be more like 40 to 50% |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. ...and they'll never tell their husbands either. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
57. I'm Skeptical |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. there's also young Republican women who were non-political but married a GOPer |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Maybe |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. yeah, I don't trust anedotes, either. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. I wouldn't be surprised |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
74. Sounds about right to me |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. I agree. |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Damn skippy |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
79. It would be interesting to see the data |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. If She Gets The Same % Of Dem Votes As Her Opponent Gets R Votes And Splits The Indies She'll Win |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
86. pro-choice repubs will vote dem.... n/t |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
88. Landslide. nt |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
93. Something I posted a while back.... |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
95. It turns out to be less than 7% on a good day. |
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