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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 02:55 PM Original message |
What do you think of this for a healthcare plan? - |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Too RW for me. |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Not from a rw at all. Just something I heard being discussed. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Anything that includes the present players, insurance cos. and |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. You can't expand Medicaid and reduce the current bureaucracy. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Oh dear! I do get tired of repeating myself. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. You apparently are misunderstanding my position. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. First off, "medicaid fraud" is perpetuated by DOCTORS and HEALTH CARE COMPANIES! |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. If you're going jump in here to attack me, at least have the decency ... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Chill. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I've chilled....now the quote, please. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. I'm still waiting for that quote where I attack Medicaid recepients |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. After seeing your post #27, I will not respond to your ugly sexism. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 11:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. How can it possibly be sexism when I don't even know the poster's gender? |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Just as I thought, groundless attacks w/o backing them up. Shame on you. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. The administrative costs are well documented especially in |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Once again, what "talking points" are you referring to? |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
4. I favor Medicare for all. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. This would be the easiest way to do it. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. Somebody would still have to administer and fund and require |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Keep in mind that one of the fastest rising crimes is Medicaid fraud. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. "Drug dealers are abandoning drugs in favor of Medicare fraud"? |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. LOL, I can't comment on other countries, but it's happening here. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. And which part of the industry is that? |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. We're a medicaid subcontractor |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. You're the gate keeper. That's why you are so suspicious that |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. "You won't have to bother with screening because everyone will be eligible." |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. I thought you supported Medicaid? Now you're not making sense. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Ha ha. Please put up your sources. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. My source is NPR, early this past week. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. No I didn't make the statement. You need to put up the link.n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Deleted message |
Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Okay that's uncalled for. This conversation is over. n/t |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
8. Sounds pretty reasonable. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Please put up your sources for your outrageous comments. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. What the hell are you talking about? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. This is a pretty worn talking point that you brought up: |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Not to mention... jobs being more important that people suffering and dying from lack of health care |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Who's demonizing people? Who's saying jobs are more important than health care? |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. I'll use your line: give me your sources. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I have put up a source with a link twice now. That website has |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. OK, now here's the link I directed you to, only I did one step better |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. ... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Your source is a conservative radio talk show host. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. You're simply intellectually dishonest. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:04 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. This guy is on NPR but his opinion is conservative and not |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
12. HR 676 is by far better. n/t |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
14. I think it's the logical first step. Everyone having coverage is the most urgent |
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Dewlso (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. Sliding Scale |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Exactly. |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
47. It sounds a lot like the system in France. They pay according to income. |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Do you know how well it is working there? |
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Froward69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. world Health org = France #1 |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:53 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Very interesting! |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:33 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. It costs France half as much per capita as it costs the US .. |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:43 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. If the RW hears that it is the same practice that they use in France - |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:58 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. One of the most common, and least challenged, in the debate over US |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 03:28 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. All I know about Medicare is when I was taking care of my father |
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Froward69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #54 |
60. The issues there would |
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WeCanWorkItOut (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
51. Interesting. But medical inflation (8%hosp, 7%docs, 6%pharm, 6%admin) |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:54 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Welcome to DU!! |
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WeCanWorkItOut (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
67. Thank you. And . . . |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
61. No thanks. Medicare for everyone. FICA cap removed. nt. |
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cilla4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Universal health coverage |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Uh - I am sort of ok with that. |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. They will need to revamp the system then. I mentioned in this thread earlier |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
65. I dont like it |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
66. Are you suggesting the insurance industry, out of their desire to meet |
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