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Rhythm and Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 01:45 AM
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Some great polling news for Edwards in Iowa.
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 01:49 AM by Rhythm and Blue
http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071007/NEWS/71005053/-1/iowapoll07



This is a poll showing how people who are not already voting for the given candidate feel about them.

Of all candidates in Iowa, Edwards is the one with the lowest absolute disfavorables among those not voting for him--that is, the candidate that fewest people have ruled out switching to. He's also the candidate that stands to gain the most from the time left in the race; over half of Iowa voters would consider switching to him if he sells himself better. And he's the candidate, along with Obama, with the highest number of voters wavering over him, with 17% on the cusp of throwing their support to him.

This also should tell his campaign that despite what some pundits are saying, he should not go negative against Clinton. She already has the highest unfavorables of the Big Three, and while there's a considerable chunk looking for more information about her, gaining those 51% should be more important to him than preventing her from expanding her lead while shrinking his own support base. He should go as positive as possible, and really drive home his views on healthcare, unions, and farms/ethanol. He's been focusing on Iraq a bit too much, in my opinion; especially given his co-sponsorship of the IWR, he's not likely to convince people his anti-war cred is better than Hillary's or Obama's. Populist domestic issues should be his game, and he's got a real chance to pull off an upset if he plays that game right.

Other notes:

1. It isn't a lack of exposure that's killing Gravel and Kucinich. People simply don't like what they see. Same with Ron Paul, thank God.

2. Biden's running a dark-horse candidacy in hopes he'll manage to swing upwards and place a respectable close fourth. Given his relatively low 28% "might consider if knew more," and his 60% ruled-out figure, I find that unlikely.

3. Huckabee's dangerous as hell, guys. Those numbers and that preacher-man shtick could combine for a real insurgent run. I'd start treating him as a real candidate along the lines of Romney or Giuliani soon, if you aren't already.

4. In absolute numbers, the Iowa Poll shows Edwards 6 points behind Clinton as of this writing. If I were handicapping Iowa, I wouldn't favor either of them. Clinton's got more momentum right now, but at this moment the environment favors an Edwards push.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=iowapoll07
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Sandaasu Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 01:52 AM
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1. Insteresting stuff.
I'm surprised to see such high "ruled out" numbers for Dodd, Biden, and Richardson.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:53 AM
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8. I'm surprised on Dodd and Biden too -
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 07:58 AM by karynnj
I'm actually surprised in the opposite direction on Richardson. His rule out number is significantly lower than Dodd's and Biden's and is pretty close to Hillary's.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 02:11 AM
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2. Would consider as a 3rd choice then, thats a long shot.
I think you misinterpreted the poll. Or perhaps I don't understand it.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 02:16 AM
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3. Edwards has the best shot to catch Hillary...
And win in all sections of the country.

Wish it were Dennis, but being pragmatic here.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 02:59 AM
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4. What's with that 51%
Who might vote for Edwards if they "knew more" about him? My God, the man has practically lived in Iowa, campaigning non-stop...what does it take for them to get to know him? Does he need to have dinner with each of these people?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:00 AM
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7. Sure does sound screwy nt
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:04 AM
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11. Hillary and Obama have spent $2-3 Mil on ads in Iowa and Edwards something like 25 thousand
I think this number is a reflection of people wondering why they're not meeting him on their TV the way they're meeting Clinton and Obama every night.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:20 AM
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12. Edwards has been able to remain in the top tier, even though he has been outspent. This is
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 08:21 AM by Ninga
a credit to his strategy.

And from everything I have read, he WILL be spending on media buys in Iowa and NH, just in time for the vote and/or caucuses.

It is interesting to watch this develop.

If message and candidate out plays and out wins big money, this can have a very positive affect on future races.

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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:41 AM
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5. The anti-Hillary people told me the polls mean nothing.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:06 AM
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16. And what do YOU think?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 06:51 AM
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6. This poll was interesting because it moves into the second and third layers
of voter preferences.

I gave it more attention than I might a straight-up this-one-or-that-one poll.

Agree on Huckabee -- he may come on real strong real fast in Iowa, especially with Sam Brownback out of the race (I'm hunching that many Brownback supporters might naturally gravitate toward Huckabee).

Thompson is registering as an option for the Pukes but not impressively. I'm not thinking he's making much of an impact, at least not enough to discourage other Republicans' campaigns there.

Edwards and Obama seem to fare pretty well in this survey. It's interesting that while the hard numbers give Clinton the lead the polling is very volatile and hints at several new narratives still taking form in Iowa.

Yogi was dead right about it not bein' over til' it's over.

And it ain't nowhere near bein' over.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:54 AM
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9. K & R. This is interesting analysis for a political junkie like me.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:58 AM
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10. Keep an eye on Huckabee
I've always predicted him to be the GOP dark horse. Though I'm betting it will be a Romney/Huckabee ticket.

Good news for Edwards too!
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:59 AM
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13. on the republican side
Edwards ranks with Thompson... thats not good news.
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Rhythm and Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:02 AM
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14. The question with Fred is whether or not he actually makes anything of his potential.
He's been uninspiring in the debates, and he's been downright lazy in his campaigning. He could really clean up in Iowa, but first he'd have to get off his couch.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:20 AM
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21. I agree
I got nervous when he announced. (Reagan effect) then keeping an eye on him showed just how much of a meat head he really is "The soviet Union is of great concern" 12 years after its collapse... sad the rethugs wont pay attention to that sort of thing as we do.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:05 AM
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15. The fight for 4th between Biden and Richardson will be interesting. Will the 5th place candidate
withdraw?

If so, will they endorse?

If so, who will they endorse?

I suspect that the 5th place candidate will withdraw and endorse, and I suspect that either would likely endorse Hillary. I suspect that Iowa's 4th place candidate, whether it's Biden or Richardson, will withdraw after New Hampshire.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:08 AM
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17. The fight for thrid between Biden and Edwards will also be interesting
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:12 AM
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19. No. Obama has a lock on 3rd. Edwards and Hillary will fight for 1st, then a gap, then Obama, then a
gap, then Biden and Richardson fighting for 4th, and then a gap, and then Kucinich, and then Dodd (if he doesn't drop out before then), and then Gravel.
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penguin7 Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:11 AM
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18. Only 2% of Iowans are true Democrats
What a sad commentary on politics in the USA.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:13 AM
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20. Agreed! I cannot believe that there isn't a bigger "Democratic" wing of the Iowa Democratic Party.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:22 AM
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23. That make me think they will go for
Hillary. just to sink us in the GE.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:22 AM
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22. Don't be surprised if it is Edwards vs. Romney in the final...
My fears tell me it's going to be Hillary vs. Ghouliani but I have this little tickle from time to time that tells me it will be Edwards vs. Romney.

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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:30 AM
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24. I think you may be right.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:55 PM
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25. This is huge in a caucus format where supporters of a candidate who does not have 15% are encouraged
to switch to their second choice.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 01:18 PM
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26. Yep, it's a big deal to be somebody's 'second choice' in the caucuses
(Just ask Edwards about the agreement he and Kucinich made right before the 2004 caucuses) :hi:
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 02:41 PM
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27. Exactly.
Chances are there are going to be some precincts where hillary or obama are not viable, so it could never hurt to be someone's second or third choice.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:57 PM
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30. true
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Rhythm and Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:11 PM
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28. kick nt
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:48 PM
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29. You shouldn't have to kick yourself
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