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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:44 AM
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Clinton puts North Carolina in Play
No Democratic Presidential candidate has won North Carolina’s Electoral Votes since Jimmy Carter’s victory more than three decades ago. George W. Bush won 56% of the vote and carried the state by double digits in both Election 2000 and Election 2004. But, the latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey shows that New York Senator Hillary Clinton might be competitive in the Tarheel state during Election 2008.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/north_carolina_2008_presidential_election
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:04 AM
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1. I refuse to pay any heed to rasmussen and his phony polls.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:47 AM
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3. OK. (big grin)
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:01 AM
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4. Don't get me wrong. I do believe HRC can do well in NC. But not because Rasmussen says so.
I don't put any stock in his polls.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:02 AM
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5. sure.
:)
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:10 AM
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7. Believe what you want. I have spent quite a bit of bandwidth defending HRC's electability on DU.
Your snideness not withstanding.

Her hidden strength is the number of Republican and Independent women who are going to quietly vote for her - particularly if she is matched up against someone like Ghouliani, who seems to go out of his way to piss off progressive thinking women.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:14 AM
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8. excuse me.
I'm just agreeing with you. If you don't want to put anything into Rasmussen, that is your business. "Sure" does not equate to snideness unless you're defensive already.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:16 AM
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10. You are just being a dick.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:29 AM
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11. and you are just being an asshole
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 01:02 PM
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17. Quit harrassing the guy, and then maybe you'd be less of a dick.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 01:21 PM
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18. I'm not harassing anyone. But you quit butting in and maybe you'd be less of an asshole
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 02:00 PM
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19. It's a forum board, it's designed for "butting in" If you want
a private conversation, then PM the guy.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 02:08 PM
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20. ok. So, I'm using it for what it's designed for.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:46 PM
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21. OK. (big grin)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 06:09 PM
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25. hey, you've got some food stuck there...
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:11 PM
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26. sure.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:00 PM
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27. halitosis.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:09 PM
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28. halitosis.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:29 AM
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12. And you protest a bit too much. Take both your responses together and see if a fair reading isn't:
:sarcasm:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:30 AM
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13. I'm not protesting at all. If you want to discount a certain poll, that's your right
:shrug:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:05 AM
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6. BTW Rassmussen has the Bush approval rating at 37 %.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/political_updates/president_bush_job_approval

Which I don't believe for a minute. I think it is closer to 27%.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:16 AM
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9. He Might Be Oversampling Rethuglicans
But that's a subjective judgement..Polling is both science and (art)
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:35 AM
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14. That would suggest Clinton is actually leading in NC by more than 10 points.
Unless the theory is that Rasmussen over samples republicans everywhere except NC, where he somehow manages to over-sample Dems while simultaneously under sampling Dems when the question is about a candidate other than Clinton.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:40 AM
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16. lol nt
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:56 PM
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24. Rasmussen's figures are not that far off other polling firms.
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:36 AM
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15. their polls usually seems skewed toward republicans.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:49 PM
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22. I'm not sure about that. I followed his polls pretty closely in 2006 and they
were mostly spot on with the exception of Maryland which almost every pollster had far too close. They have a hard time believing just how big the Democratic edge in Maryland is I think.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:55 PM
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23. My mistake, it is Gallup.
Ipsos seems to be pretty good too.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:24 AM
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2. Good to know! n/t
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