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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:13 PM
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I care what you think about gay (human) rights, not what you think of being gay
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 08:27 PM by CreekDog
I want you to support those rights, period. Why is less important to me.

I don't know politicians well enough to try to get into their minds --even their spouses and families frequently don't. To get elected typically means you are great one on a hundred million, less so one on one.

Long story short, I care about what you will do, what you will support and if you will follow through on what you say.

Now I am a contrarian and am mostly reacting to the overreaction about Obama's concert. I just think his positions on Iraq and civil rights are more important to how I vote than what one guy who sang at a concert for him said somewhere else.

This is about making decisions. If you let the spoken words of a man who only sang at a concert for Obama matter more than the words and actions of Obama himself, you are, um, well I just seriously hope you never pilot any plane I am a passenger in because you simply don't know how to prioritize.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:20 PM
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1. There's no such thing as "gay" rights, just human rights.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:22 PM
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2. Amen to that. eom
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:28 PM
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3. good point.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:30 PM
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4. Yeah, but not all gays have all human rights
So, sadly there is a distinction, though there should not be.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:37 PM
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5. The distinction is made by those who think that it is all-important.
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 08:38 PM by baldguy
And that the distinction justifies murder.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:44 PM
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7. For supporters, gay rights mean equal rights
Unfortunately, gays do not have the same rights that people who are not gay have.

Just as years ago, African Americans did not have the rights White Americans had.

But this is a side point of the discussion.

My point was that I'm going to vote for whoever can get it done, and get it passed. That may not be the most solidly moral candidate.

Being president is a job, first and foremost I want them to do what I expect them to do, not just to be solid people with good positions. They have to have a little cunning in them and it may mean they have strange bedfellows, some opinions I don't like, but if they do the right thing, that's all secondary.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:43 PM
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6. So you suggest Obama could not have found gospel singers who aren't hateful to gays?
And unless you are gay, please don't tell us how to prioritize.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:05 PM
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9. I wasn't talking to all DU'ers not just gay people (what's up with you?)
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 09:06 PM by CreekDog
How presumptuous to assume that I was only addressing gay people.

And I don't expect a winning candidate to be mulling over who is playing at his benefit concert as well as what they said and what their political positions are.

I expect Obama to be focusing on what his positions are and mulling over who will be in his cabinet and his campaign team, not some stupid concert.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:59 PM
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8. Agreed, and recommended.
:thumbsup:
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