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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:51 PM
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Republicans join Edwards and Obama in attacks on Clinton:
And it just wasn't her Democratic rivals criticizing her. The Republican National Committee released a Web video that plays up Clinton's debate performance. And Romney went up with a new TV ad in New Hampshire going after Clinton for what he charges is her lack of experience. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/02/444576.aspx
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:53 PM
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1. so now Edwards and Obama
are, in effect, working with the republicans because they can't get her on their own. (sigh) oh well.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:58 PM
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4. And posts like this implying Edwards and Obama are working with the GOP are acceptable?
But noone can lay a glove on Hillary ? Talk about disinformation.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:02 PM
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6. Speak to Chuck Todd, Andrea Mitchell and the baastids at MSGOP, then.
They're the ones who snarkily juxtaposed the videos at the link, as though it's a combined technique.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:03 PM
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7. Feel free to suppress the MSNBC story by hitting the 'alert' tag in the post.
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 06:04 PM by MethuenProgressive
Enjoy!
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:10 PM
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8. no implying here
Talk about disinformation -- from the Queen of spittle-laced hate and misinformation herself! (Go Edwards!)

Please tell me where I said no one could lay a glove on Hillary? Take a minute ... look hard ... it might take some time to see through that nearly impenetrable fog of Hillary Hate and Constant Outrage you seem to be afflicted with and have to peer through in order to see fact and reason and reality. We'll wait ...

Okay? Back with us? Good.

I simply stated what's evident from the reality of the OP's Post: the repugs picked up where Edwards and Obama (and Russert) left off after opening the door. Doesn't take a genius to figure out that would happen.

Now go and find a way to twist what I just wrote in a way that helps your obvious agenda. I'll check back later to see what you come up with.

Have fun! :hi:
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:18 PM
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10. Here, Here! nt
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:55 PM
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25. Kettle. Pot. Puce.
Ring a bell?:evilgrin:
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:55 PM
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2. Wow .... Edwards, Obama, the RNC AND Methuen - All working together ....
To try to dislodge a decent Democratic party member .... based on a subpar debate performance ?

Chuckles ...... Sweet .......
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:57 PM
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3. And? Rudy agreed Hillary on her Iran position and disagreed with Obama.
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 05:57 PM by jenmito
What does THAT say?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:59 PM
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5. But I thought the Republicans wanted Hillary as the nominee...?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:29 PM
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11. They do. Fellow Dem. candidates pointing out their differences with Hillary
in order to show THEY are the better candidate is different from Repubs. running ads against her. The Repubs. are doing it because she rallies their base AND because it makes them seem like they've already won their primary and are ready to run against OUR "presumptive" nominee.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:34 PM
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12. So.. the Dems attack her because they want her as our nominee?
Interesting strategy.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:37 PM
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13. No. The REPUBS. attack her because they think she WILL be our nominee.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:45 PM
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15. OK, the Dems attack cuz they *don't*, and the GOP atttacks cuz they *do* therefore...
After Clinton is nominated the attacks decrease by half?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:54 PM
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16. Yup.
But she won't be nominated. :patriot:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:39 PM
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14. Ok...so when republicans praise her it is because they want her as the nominee...
And when they criticize her...the same thing...

Ok :crazy:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:57 PM
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17. Yup. The RNC/GOP wants her to be the nominee. They praise her on all the talk shows...
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 06:57 PM by jenmito
The nominees attack her to motivate their base, and the others praise her so she WILL be their opponent.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:12 PM
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19. OK, they praise *and* attack so she'll be nominated?
How many are registered as Democrats so they vote in our primaries?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:20 PM
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20. The candidates attack. The THs praise.
Except today when Giuliani, in calling Obama naive, said he agreed with Hillary-the only thing he agrees with her on. :patriot:
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:13 PM
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9. Revealing her disastrous potential result in the General Election --- if
Dems can mildly (and no, the debate was not "hostile" to her) point to her inadequacies --- just imagine a full bore assault in the General.

This is just a foretaste to the ASSAULT on her, deserved or not, which cannot be negated by girlie protestations or staff skills or money.

We must do better -- I am a feminist -- BUT Hillary is not my choice.

I hope it is not too late for Iowa and New Hampshire to deliver us from defeat in 2008.

Obviously, I cannot stand her -- though I will grit my teeth and vote for her if necesary in the General -- but will not donate or work for her, as I have in the past for our nominees.

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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:58 PM
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18. This is getting really ugly
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 07:00 PM by Mike03
Politics has been ugly for the 20 years I have been aware of it, but is now getting cut-throat, where we Democrats have joined hands with the Devil to sacrifice out own best shot at redeeming the CATASTROPHE of the past eight years.

We are ridiculous animals, the human species is.

And we get the Repukes we deserve, and most of the morons who vote for them are going to be the first ones to fall under a continued Republican regime.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:29 PM
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21. So then let's just give the nomination to Obama. Let's not go through primaries anymore.
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 07:30 PM by jenmito
Sorry, but that's the way it's always been done. Hillary, like the rest of 'em, don't get a free pass.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:58 PM
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26. Obama panders to bigots and homophobes...AND he is inexperienced...
HE is the least qualified of the Democratic candidates. So, no, I don't agree with giving him the nomination.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 08:04 PM
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27. No he doesn't. He spoke out against them and his voting record speaks for itself.
He has over 20 years experience, great judgement, integrity, and no baggage. He's the one they least want to run against.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:32 PM
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30. He spoke out against McClurkin...then gave him a stage and made him emcee...
where the cretinous bigot spewed out his hate and bile against the GLBT community. Obama has proven he can pander to bigots. That much is true.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:52 PM
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32. Let me know when he starts voting against gay rights.
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 12:58 PM by jenmito
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:26 PM
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33. "IF" he votes...since he has a record of failing to vote when called to do so...
Besides, I don't want to give him a chance to vote against gay rights...he panders to bigots, pretty soon he will be voting for their causes so that he doesn't lose their support.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:32 PM
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34. WHEN he votes. He's running for president and doesn't have the luxury of
having the most popular ex-president on his side. He has a great record on gay rights. He doesn't pander-he campaigns.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 06:01 PM
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35. He's running for president...but he's a U.S. Senator, VOTING is part of his job.
It's inexcusable for him not to have voted on the Kyl-Lieberman amendment. Do you think Clinton should not allow her husband to help her in her campaign? Does Obama's wife campaign for him? Should she be banned or criticized for doing so? Double standard?

He pandered to the bigots when he gave McClurkin the stage to not just sing but to emcee. McClurkin is a homophobe and a bigot. If you don't think he is, then we really don't have much to discuss.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 08:04 PM
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28. I'm not FOR Hillary
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 08:05 PM by Mike03
I'm for Biden, Edwards or Kucinich.

But the politics of destruction against dems by dems is only going to help the Repukes. For chrissakes. We need to be smart, think into the future, and not fuck up this time.

You want another four to eight years of Republican rule?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 08:08 PM
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29. Doesn't matter. You seem to want no debate among our candidates
meaning you want SOMEONE to just be handed the nomination with no fight. The Repubs. do the very same thing in THEIR primary. That's how it works, for chrissakes. It's not going to hand the election to the Repubs.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:39 PM
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22. Obama did say he wanted to work with Republicans. Maybe working with Tim Russert
to undermine a fellow Democrat is meant to be a show of good faith.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-08-25-4033558171_x.htm

Obama names Republicans he'll work with

By Brendan Farrington, Associated Press Writer
KEY BISCAYNE, Fla. — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama often says he will be a candidate that will bring both parties together and Saturday he named a few of the Republicans he would reach out to if elected.

"There are some very capable Republicans who I have a great deal of respect for," Obama said in an interview with The Associated Press. "The opportunities are there to create a more effective relationship between parties."

Among the Republicans he would seek help from are Sens. Richard Lugar of Indiana, John Warner of Virginia and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, Obama said.

"On foreign policy I've worked very closely with Dick Lugar," Obama said. "I consider him one of my best friends in the Senate. He's someone I would actively seek counsel and advice from when it came to foreign policy."

more...


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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:43 PM
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23. Head for the hills! The CONFLATERS are attacking! So just where did the Rs join Edwards and Obama?
Was it down by the old mill stream?

Were you taking the high road as they were taking the low road?

Please compose your "news" postings a little bit better, will you? Some people might mistake your intent, but you wouldn't want that, now would you?

Would you?

(It's not like this hasn't been brought up in an earlier thread today or anything...)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:54 PM
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24. It's the same RW tactic as saying Dems. sympathize with bin Laden
because bin Laden claims he doesn't want us in Iraq just as DEMS. don't want us in Iraq.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:01 PM
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31. your attempt to obscure is fox news-ish, but that doesn't make you right wing
try to extend the same courtesy to those who find hrc duplicitous.
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