Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Goodbye to All That

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:38 PM
Original message
Goodbye to All That
Andrew sullivan is a Reagan conservative who has been moving towards the democratic side - he crossed to the dark side- hehehehe. Anyway, he endorsed barack Obama in the Atlantic. the Article is a powerful social commentary about the problems of our country and how he thinks we got to the non violent civil war (his words) we are experiencing now in the country.
Whether or not you support Obama is not the point. and if you don't like Obama, skip over the parts that are about him. I just urge you to read the article and think.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200712/obama/2

The professionalization of the battle, and the emergence of an array of well-funded interest groups dedicated to continuing it, can be traced most proximately to the bitter confirmation fights over Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas, in 1987 and 1991 respectively. The presidency of Bill Clinton, who was elected with only 43 percent of the vote in 1992, crystallized the new reality. As soon as the Baby Boomers hit the commanding heights, the Vietnam power struggle rebooted. The facts mattered little in the face of such a divide. While Clinton was substantively a moderate conservative in policy, his countercultural origins led to the drama, ultimately, of religious warfare and even impeachment. Clinton clearly tried to bridge the Boomer split. But he was trapped on one side of it—and his personal foibles only reignited his generation’s agonies over sex and love and marriage. Even the failed impeachment didn’t bring the two sides to their senses, and the election of 2000 only made matters worse: Gore and Bush were almost designed to reflect the Boomers’ and the country’s divide, which deepened further.

The trauma of 9/11 has tended to obscure the memory of that unprecedentedly bitter election, and its nail- biting aftermath, which verged on a constitutional crisis. But its legacy is very much still with us, made far worse by President Bush’s approach to dealing with it. Despite losing the popular vote, Bush governed as if he had won Reagan’s 49 states. Instead of cementing a coalition of the center-right, Bush and Rove set out to ensure that the new evangelical base of the Republicans would turn out more reliably in 2004. Instead of seeing the post-’60s divide as a wound to be healed, they poured acid on it.

With 9/11, Bush had a reset moment—a chance to reunite the country in a way that would marginalize the extreme haters on both sides and forge a national consensus. He chose not to do so. It wasn’t entirely his fault. On the left, the truest believers were unprepared to give the president the benefit of any doubt in the wake of the 2000 election, and they even judged the 9/11 attacks to be a legitimate response to decades of U.S. foreign policy. Some could not support the war in Afghanistan, let alone the adventure in Iraq. As the Iraq War faltered, the polarization intensified. In 2004, the Vietnam argument returned with a new energy, with the Swift Boat attacks on John Kerry’s Vietnam War record and CBS’s misbegotten report on Bush’s record in the Texas Air National Guard. These were the stories that touched the collective nerve of the political classes—because they parsed once again along the fault lines of the Boomer divide that had come to define all of us.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:41 PM
Response to Original message
1. A top Republican endorses Obama? McCain/Obama '08!?!
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 07:00 PM by MethuenProgressive
The way Obama flip flops he's bound to endorse McCain any day now...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Grandrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Hillary/Murdock '08?
Nice of you to promote McCain for president on a Democratic forum!:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:43 PM
Response to Original message
2. Andrew Sullivan is a serial whiner. Let's hope his candidate shares a Pollyannaish view of
"What the Catholic Church 'really' thinks"--if only it weren't for those interfering men in dresses running things!

It only took him, what--four years or so--to get off the Bush Is God train?

That's a problematic endorsement for BO, I think---kinda in the "Don't do me any favors" region....

Sullivan can turn on a dime, too, when he feels slighted. And he'll beat that slight like a rented mule.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:43 PM
Response to Original message
3. This is good - thanks. I've liked Andrew Sullivan ever since I heard him
rant about how Bush had betrayed the American people -it was very powerful.

I always learn something from him - and always am exposed to a different view of a situation, whether I agree with him or not.

Thanks for posting this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 12th 2024, 12:58 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC