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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 07:32 AM
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Republicans waiting for the next Reagan - These people are the reason we are in this trouble.
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 07:42 AM by EV_Ares
Polls may post leaders for now, but voters are voicing uncertainty with their party's crop of candidates.
By Doyle McManus, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
November 3, 2007
RICHMOND, VA. -- National polls show former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani leading the pack of Republican presidential contenders. Statewide polls in Iowa and New Hampshire, the key early states in the nomination process, find former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in the strongest position.

But an evening with conservative voters in a suburb of Virginia's prosperous capital tells a different story: Many, perhaps most, Republicans are still essentially undecided. They're looking for the next Ronald Reagan, and they're not sure they've found him yet -- although some are hoping former Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee will ride in and sweep them off their feet.

"The president needs to be a strong leader . . . somebody who's going to be able to pull the country together," said Susie Rommell, 54, an information technology trainer. She said she favors Giuliani but could change her mind.

"I want a strong conservative," said David Armstrong, 42, an accountant. He said he favors Thompson. (Thompson?? he does not look healthy)

In a two-hour-long discussion organized by pollster Peter D. Hart for the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, a dozen GOP voters late this week discussed the issues on their minds, the qualities they want in a president and their uncertainty about their party's crop of candidates.

The country is not in good shape, they quickly agreed. (No shit).

"We're in a lot of trouble," said Ted Lacy, 38, a software designer. "There's the war, especially, and we're spending more than we should."

"I don't want my grandchildren inheriting what we're setting up," said June Beninghove, 67, who described herself as a "full-time grandmother."

The daunting list of problems they talked about included not only the war in Iraq but the threat of terrorism, a flagging economy, illegal immigration and -- to some, at the root of it all -- declining moral values.

NOTE: All 12 voted for George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004, but few were willing to offer much praise for him now.

"Mixed results," said Brian Matt, 48, a mortgage banker. ( Mixed results; must mean disasterous results)

"Disappointment," sighed Ann Turner, 34, a fitness instructor. "I think we need a breath of fresh air."

Eight of the 12 said they want the next president to take the country in a direction different from the course Bush has set. But when it comes to the Republican candidates, most of these conservative voters haven't been won over by anyone.

"No standouts," said Jill Morley, 44, a schoolteacher, when asked to describe the GOP field.

"Second string," said Armstrong.

At the beginning of the evening, a straw poll around the table gave Giuliani four votes, Thompson three, Romney two and Sen. John McCain of Arizona two.

One of the participants didn't make a choice and, although Morley did, she said: "But I'm really undecided."

Several others nodded in sympathy.

Two hours later, when offered a choice between solely Giuliani and Thompson, nine of the 12 voters said they would probably pick Thompson.

Giuliani won praise for his toughness and his leadership in New York after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, but criticism for his moderate positions on abortion and civil unions for homosexuals. (still worry about abortion & gay life style)

((entire article @ the link below))

Link: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-campaign3nov03,0,3197818.story?coll=la-home-nation
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 07:35 AM
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1. The best part is right at the end.
The leading Democratic candidate, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, won grudging respect as a formidable figure -- but, not surprisingly, no support from these conservatives.

"She's extremely competent," said Matt. "I just don't happen to agree with her."

"I'd vote for Mickey Mouse before I'd vote for Hillary Clinton," growled Armstrong.

You did, Mr. Armstrong, you did.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 07:37 AM
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2. Don't these people make you sick,
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 07:42 AM by EV_Ares
"I'd vote for Mickey Mouse before I'd vote for Hillary Clinton," growled Armstrong.


In other words the country can go to hell & continue on its downward path of disaster. The total ignorance of these people is unbelievable but I guess should not be surprised, these are the people that gave us GWB for 8 years.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 07:41 AM
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3. Thompson. healthy
anyone notice often he looks like Homer Simpson. Of course with the legacy of Ronald Reagan; maybe Homer Simpson might have some sex appeal with the morons.
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MikeE Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 07:47 AM
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4. The thing I don't get
...is this whole St Ronnie thing. I was in a bar celebrating when he died. I mean, I saw so many friends die during the 80s and 90s of AIDS while, at the very least, he sat around and did nothing, and worse, the repugs on the Hill were talking about building internment camps for gays. On top of all of that, he was resposible for cutting the funding into research for alternative fuels because we wouldn't see a payoff for about 20 years. Well, it's 20 yrs later and wouldn't that technology be nice now? Thanks for that too! Sorry for the morning rant.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 08:12 AM
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5. No matter what anyone says Reagan started this mess
and it burns me up that the stupid republicans still keep looking at him, as if he was a king
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 08:48 AM
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7. U are 100% right. The media is responsible as well. The one thing
I will give him is he had the charisma and charm that was the mask of his reality. Bush does not even have that as far as I am concerned. Reagon could give a speech & did have some intelligence, Bush cannot give a speech and has no intelligence.

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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 08:16 AM
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6. I watched this on CSPAN last night.
At first it was hilarious, then it just got sad.
Why do people raise their children to continue to need a daddy figure when they're grown up?
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