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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:36 PM
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Why Mukasey, and why now?
The AIPAC scandal has its tentacles that reach to the highest levels of the Administration and Congress. The fallout from the investigation and trial will spawn further investigations of many in the government.

Who better to short circuit any further investigations and prevent charges being brought against those that have committed High Crimes and possibly Treason against this country?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:39 PM
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1. not to mention the spying and torture and illegal war....
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:43 PM
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3. True, but it is being used as a smokescreen
to prevent question being raised as to the true intent of his nomination.

Most accept the fact that water boarding and other forms of torture are illegal, but by not answering the question, Mukasey keeps the focus on the smoke and not the fire.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:17 PM
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7. The issue is much bigger than torture. the question is one of Bush accountability
for his many crimes.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:43 PM
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2. Uh. Mukasey is not necessary to short circuit further investigations etc.
They can do that now just fine. Schumer and Bush want him, in particular, because he carries far less of a stench and can raise morale and rally the 'troops' at the Justice Department. He's not necessary for barbarism, only for the veneer of civility.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:45 PM
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4. Would you even be suggesting this
if Mukasey weren't Jewish? Do you realize that there are any number of people that bushco preferred to Mukasey, including Olsen?

There are evidently lots of people who would be better than Mukasey, who does not have a history of being a bush loyalist. Furthermore, Mukasey bucked bushco in Padilla. Not that I have any hopes of him being independent, but you are accusing him of being loyal to AIPAC and the administration to an extraordinary degree, without providing any evidence.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:53 PM
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5. Answering a question with another question.
I figured you would show up eventually.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:03 PM
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6. So what?
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 01:05 PM by cali
I don't even recognize your name. But either way, that's hardly the point. Got a problem answering the question I posed?

edited to add: I did answer the questions you posed. You may not have liked the answers, but I did answer them.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:44 PM
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8. What has this to do with being 'Jewish?'
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 02:45 PM by formercia
AIPAC is a Zionist organization and the question I posed has nothing to do with religion.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:56 PM
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9. OK, than why is it so clear to you
that Mukasey is perfect, when it's been explained to you that there are others even more perfect, who bushco preferred. Remember, Mukasey has no history of being a BFEE member, and bucked the admin on the Padilla case- at least partially. Someone like Olsen is definitely a BFEE member, and certainly has never done anything to buck bushco; in fact the opposite is true.

And why do you think AIPAC is a significant player in this?

By the way, Zionist is not a dirty word. In fact, despite not being Jewish, I've decided I'm a Zionist: I believe that Jews have a right to their own country in Israel, roughly following the 1967 lines. I also believe Palestinians have their own right to a country that's contiguous- not one made up of cantons. And I strongly oppose the occupation. There are lots of people like me.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:03 PM
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10. If it were clear
I wouldn't have posed it as a question.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:12 PM
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11. Sorry. I don't buy that. Here's your OP:
Why Mukasey, and why now?
The AIPAC scandal has its tentacles that reach to the highest levels of the Administration and Congress. The fallout from the investigation and trial will spawn further investigations of many in the government.

Who better to short circuit any further investigations and prevent charges being brought against those that have committed High Crimes and possibly Treason against this country?

That's a rhetorical question. "Who better" is almost always a phrase used rhetorically to make a case. You don't even have to be a student of rhetoric to recognize that.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:21 PM
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12. Do you have someone in mind?
..someone who might sneak in lower under the radar?

..the ultimate stealth candidate?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:26 PM
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13. sure. bushco wouldn't have a problem with Mukasey
being nixed. He already said that he wouldn't nominate anyone else if that happened. He wouldn't even need to make a recess appointment. He already has someone who's worse than Mukasey: The Acting AG Peter Keisler. I'm sure you know all about Keisler and that that he's a key BFEE member.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:29 PM
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14. I agree, it's a win-win for Junior
but at his treason trial, he won't be able to argue that his lackey and hatchet man was approved by Congress.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:39 PM
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15. Ah, if only. That's my favorite fantasy when I can't sleep- imagining
bush on trial for treason, but i recognize that it's likely to remain fantasy and if it ever does happen that he's in the dock, that will be such a minor point that it really won't make any difference. Such things rarely play a part in exoneration.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:42 PM
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16. See, we do have common ground.
So, don't be such a kvetch, already.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:51 PM
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17. I'll try and perhaps you
could be more precise with your language.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 04:09 PM
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18. The difference between accuracy and precision:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy

One could be very precise and completely wrong at the same time.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 04:26 PM
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19. LOL!
I give up. And you complained about me kvetching? too funny.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 04:39 PM
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20. It must be in my genes.
:rofl:
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