Raise your hand if an SNL skit is far less important to you than...

A never-ending war in Iraq
A possible war in Iran
40 Million+ Americans who are un- or under- insured
A steadily declining economy
The disappearing middle class
The Housing market collapse
Unthinkable fuel and food prices
A crumbling American education system
The fact that GLBT Americans are still second-class citizens in the eyes of the law
The fact that corporations still considered 'persons'
A future AG that isn't sure what 'torture' is, and who approves of unconstitutional wiretapping...

Etc....

*raises hand*

:)

Must be a slow news day. ;-)

:hi:

you're just perpetuating the patriarchaL society.:eyes:

























oh, and *raises hand*

Huzzah!

A mojor reason for lack of sanity and reason in America

Raising the other hand!


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I'm concerned about all of these things you mentioned. Hell, in GD, JackBeck posted about another hate crime involving two gay men in New Jersey. You have NO idea how furious reading about that senseless homophobic, hatemongering shit makes me.

At this point, I don't give a flying fuck about the skit. SNL is a stupid show that frequently employs the lowest common denominator with humor. SNL is a stupid, consistently unfunny show that should have been cancelled around 1989.

But...I can see how some are taken aback about how women are still perceived by some in this society. The SNL crap was a context for these discussions.

I don't know if you can understand what I'm saying with this post. I hope it makes sense.

Tons and tons of threads about this particular incident seem to be overkill, especially b/c if it weren't about a presidential candidate, nobody would care whatsoever. Hell, any thread about sexism in GD turns into a massive flamewar, and now that HC is the target, it's time to get up in arms about it. It just rings false to me, and seems to be the day's distraction. I'm a woman, and one in a field (Economics) where the deck is stacked against me. But, I'd rather we not focus on a crap show's skit. That's all. Just my .02. :)

I guess that's the nature of things around here. If something hits a nerve, there will sometimes be scores of threads on the same subject. I'm not about to condemn that...look at the number of threads the past week about the McClurkin thing. I think the outrage was such that I perfectly understood the number of threads. Hell, I posted, it seemed like in all of them. :-)

I couldn't understand all of the threads about John Edwards' haircut. I scratched my head over that controversy.

I guess we each have subjects that we're passionate about.

And I'm glad we can all say our piece. I can't wait for this election to be over. :)

Signed,

A DK supporter :P

ONE MORE YEAR of this election! ARRGH!

I'm voting for DK in the primaries, also. And, *gasp*...in Obamaland! :-)

Oh, hey, what day is your sweetie going to be on Jeopardy?! We wanna watch! He rocked last time! :bounce:

Check your local listings. :-)

:bounce: We'll be rooting for him!

By falsely claiming you can either care about that OR all the really IMPORTANT stuff that you can't do a damn thing about. But it has to be one or the other. Completely false.

I just think that DUers will take any chance to get overwrought and to wring hands over something relatively insignificant in the big picture. Call me when Hillary freaks out about it as much as people here do. :)

*raising hand*

and I consider myself a very open-minded and sensitive person when it comes to issues of race, gender and sexual identity, I really don't see what the big deal was with the witch reference. :shrug: They make fun of everyone on that show and indulge in name calling.


RAISE HAND, btw, to answer your question.

Very like smokers who insisted that air pollution meant what they were doing was insignificant.

Yes, there are vast awfulnesses out there every minute of every day. But that is a rotten, LAZY excuse for not attending to the smaller awfulness right in front of your face.

I just wanted you to expound. I no longer do. Have a nice day :)

I'm sure if a candidate were to call Obama a N******, his supporters would say that it's practically a non-issue, since it's not nearly as important as the war, right?

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your comparison is irrelevant...Not to mention that "witch" and "n****r" aren't very comparable in 2007. :)

I've known you for a long long time around here. I've never known you to be a zealot about anything. But if you think a 'witch' skit is a serious matter, well perhaps you are losing your perspective about this election.

I don't think it's anywhere near the McChickenhead stunt, or the Kyl-Lieberman vote, or that fuckwit future AG.

I just think it reveals some things about our society, is all. :shrug:

:pals: And I love your thread...

But yes, it doesn't rate with the McBigot issue, or Kyl-LIEberman, etc, at all.

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I mean, if Obama had called her a witch at the debate or something, that would have been something to have 8 billion threads over. This warrants some discussion (and it boggles me that there are folks who see nothing misogynistic about using witch as a slur) but I think it's kind of dumb that people are going nuts over the content of a skit on a show that hasn't been funny in years...

Then again this place went into apoplexy over Edwards' haircut. :crazy:

If it were a real-life incident, then sure, just like McBigot! I wouldn't begrudge such outrage. But a crappy sketch show that's past its prime...Er, no, thanks.

DU and apoplexy= best friends. :P

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without being accused of exaggerating its importance? It was a misogynist reference on a tv show that has some cultural relevance. That doesn't mean anyone who was offended by it thinks any less or any more of all the things you cite in the OP.

A brazillion threads about it? Er, I don't get it. And SNL has very little cultural relevance these days, afaik. If it had been Obama calling her that in a debate or something, sure! But c'mon...Like I said to someone else, when I see HC making a big deal of it, I'll give it greater merit as an issue we need to debate endlessly on a boring Sunday.

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so I imagine a lot of people felt the same way about it. There were a bazillion threads about McLurkface and it wasn't because it was somehow orchestrated. People were genuinely pissed off. I don't think an SNL skit has much weight in our lives, but it is representative of something that does: language used to demean categories of individuals.

Having said that, this particular incident will fade away pretty quickly. The underlying issue of sexism won't.

I think it's ridiculous when people here get in a big kerfuffle over something that happened on a comedy show.

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at Jon Stewart or Colbert, b/c they weren't "tough" enough during an interview, or even if they dare mock the current love of DU.

There are a lot of people without a sense of humor. :)

those crack me up.

"Jon Stewart has turned on us!"

It's comedy people - you get your material where it lies.

... that nobody watches unless there is absolutely nothing else to do.

Man, by the time the PC thought police at DU get done bitching, there won't be anything that can be said that can't be taken out of context and blown out of proportion.

he opened his mouth and aLL heLL broke Loose.

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Thank you for bringing it up.