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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 11:23 PM
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Barack Obama Calls Democratic Front Runner Hillary Clinton 'Disingenuous'
http://sev.prnewswire.com/magazines/20071104/NYSU01104112007-1.html

NEW YORK, Nov. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Sen. Barack Obama tells Newsweek that in last week's debate, Sen. Hillary Clinton's response on the question of her First Lady papers "was certainly inadequate." "When she suggested somehow she didn't have control over whether or not these papers were being released -- what we're talking about here is her husband's presidential library. And when she is making a suggestion that part of the experience that she brings to this office is her experience as First Lady, people have a right to ask some tough questions. She can release these papers," he says. When asked whether or not he thought she was being dishonest, he says, "I think she was being disingenuous."

With the Iowa caucuses, a must win, just eight weeks away, Newsweek's Senior Washington Correspondent Howard Fineman and Senior White House Correspondent Richard Wolffe debut "Report from the Front," a new series featuring online and print interviews with the candidates, in the November 12 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, November 5). They discuss the sense of urgency in Obama's campaign and the amping up of his new willingness to criticize Democratic front runner Clinton.

Sen. Clinton's answer on driver's licenses for illegal immigrants seemed to be an example of her not being transparent. Obama says in the interview, "Look, watch the videotape. She said that she was for the Spitzer plan and in the span of two minutes said she wasn't for the Spitzer plan. That wasn't something that was prompted by me or anybody else but it was characteristic of her answers on Social Security and her answers on the papers from the Clinton years. Look, I actually recognize that this sort of straddling is oftentimes considered politically savvy in Washington ... It's been rewarded ... The perception is that if you don't allow yourself to be pinned down, then you're making yourself a smaller target in the general election. That's the conventional wisdom. I think it is the wrong way to govern. I think it is not what we need right now."

On whether he is in favor of giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, Obama says, "What I have said is that it is better off that we know that people who are driving know the rules of the road, are subject to insurance, are making sure that we know we can track them if they get in an accident. A lot of security experts agree with me on this issue. It's not optimal. What we need to do is make sure that we don't have undocumented workers coming into the country in the first place. But here's the more important point: people know where I stand on this and we can have a serious conversation and debate about it."

Obama also discusses the major failures of the Bill Clinton presidency. He tells Newsweek,

"Issues like health care. She wants to take credit for having tried but there were a lot of big mistakes in preventing us from getting health care back in 1993 ... What was she involved with? Where did she participate? Where did she not participate in decision making? And that's one of the reasons why these papers that are currently in the presidential library could be helpful in sorting that out."

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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 11:42 PM
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1. Keep telling the Truth, Barack... That will set you apart from Hillary
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 11:44 PM
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2. attack your opponent's charcater as a replacement for fresh, new ideas
I cannot believe Obama and Edwards are self-destructing like this


if you have to tear someone down in order to make yourself look good, you ain't looking good.




sad to see
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:37 AM
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9. Agree.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:52 AM
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14. pointing out facts about someone is really an attack
Hillary is responsible for her own actions.

The other candidates have the right to call her on them.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 11:47 PM
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3. Oh shock. Should he duck and dodge the question like Hillary or
tell the truth? he chose to tell the truth
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 11:48 PM
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4. Did he really say that? Or did he have McClurkin warble it out in a song?
Obama has gone into desperation mode.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:01 AM
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5. Yeah especially when the NARA said that they have over 100
requests for the Clinton papers and only 7 clerks to wade thru WHAT IS LEGAL TO RELEASE AND WHAT IS NOT....President Bush signed an EO 13,233 that said that the incumbent president has the final say over whether and when papers can be released.

At the time the order was signed President Clinton wrote a letter to the administration and angrily decried the order. He demanded that bush release his papers. The order about presidential papers says that they can't be released until at least 12 years after a president leaves office. And the EO bush signed extended that to HIS PERMISSION.

I wish when people like Obama make these statements they would know what the hell they are talking about. If he doesn't make it his business to find out about this, and know that Hillary Clinton has absolutely nothing to do with what bush is allowing to be released, and the fact that the 7 clerks at NARA are complaining that they are doing their best to search and classify what can and can't be. What the hell kind of president would he be when he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground with a simple subject like this.

Or maybe he doesn't want to research the question, that way he can lie thru his teeth and get away with it. And for those who didn't check out the two links I posted yesterday, go back and look at the rulings and what has and has not been released, that is if you have the guts.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:03 AM
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6. the audacity - he does himself no favors here
the attack approach backfires as we speak
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:11 AM
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7. Obama is a hypocricital jerk. I'm sorry, he's full of shit. Hypocrite.
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 12:13 AM by Skip Intro


after slamming Hillary for , he goes on to straddle the fence:


On whether he is in favor of giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, Obama says, "What I have said is that it is better off that we know that people who are driving know the rules of the road, are subject to insurance, are making sure that we know we can track them if they get in an accident. A lot of security experts agree with me on this issue. It's not optimal. What we need to do is make sure that we don't have undocumented workers coming into the country in the first place. But here's the more important point: people know where I stand on this and we can have a serious conversation and debate about it."



huh? what? where do you stand then?



what a freakin' fraud


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:14 AM
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8.  obama should be very careful when he speaks
his words have destablized pakistan...yes the power of the obama unleashes the forces of evil...... my god what is he doing to our country?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:49 AM
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10. Obama actually thinks he has the whole country mesmerized
when most of us do not have a problem recognizing him for what he is- an inept fraud.
Falling down drunk on his own "To Know Me Is To Love Me" meme. Obama's only other attribute eclipsing his delusions of grandeur, is his much vaunted reckless thirst for power.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 02:02 AM
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11. Obama is the real thing, Hillary not so much.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 02:53 AM
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12. A "thing" called a "media creation"...
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:05 AM
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13. Clinton supporters don't want anyone to attack
their candidate because they know she can be damaged. It already happened in the debate...and Clinton hasn't made it better for herself either (by drawing the Gender Card).
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:03 AM
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15. Barack has missed over 75% of Senate votes in the last two months.
I'd call that being a 'Disingenuous' Senator.
You have a job, Barack. Show up once in a while.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:24 AM
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16. Irony alert...Irony alert...nt
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:47 AM
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17. Yep, tough words like "disingenuous" ought to really do...
absolutely nothing for him.

C'mon Barak, if you're gonna fight, stop being a pansy! I got goose bumps at your DNC speech years ago, now I get annoyed at how milquetoast you have become. Get off your ass and fight you wimp.
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