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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:51 PM
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Bill Clinton says in Vegas speech yesterday the country is over bashing Bush and Cheney, tho warns
of coming Republican attacks on Hillary.

Any shot at the current president is an automatic applause line with a Democratic audience. But rather than taking the easy ovation, Clinton gently deflected an audience member's suggestion that President Bush be included in his list of global problems.

"Yeah, Bush and Cheney," he said. "I could sit here all night and make you laugh and cry and stand up and cheer talking about the president and the vice president. But the country is over that. Let's get the show on the road again."

http://www.lvrj.com/news/11044976.html
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Al Federfer Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:54 PM
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1. We're not "over" Bush and Cheney yet, Bill. n/t
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 02:21 PM
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2. This statement, along with the one Hillary made at the last debate about "turning the page on Bush"
has convinced me that the Clintons have agreed that Bush Jr. and friends will not have to face any consequences for their actions after they leave office. Much like Poppy was let off the hook for Iran Contra.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:01 PM
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3. I do wonder what his objective is here, as well.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:05 PM
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4. Quid pro Quo.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:18 PM
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9. Gore and Kerry get targeted by this crew while they stay reticent when it comes
to Bush and his cronies.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:24 PM
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11. It's great to have your voice back, blm! We missed you!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:47 PM
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20. It's crystal clear
I can't understand DUers who don't see it.

:hi:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:01 PM
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28. Wonderful to see you back here.
I missed your posts! Agree with you that Bill Clinton is far more willing to let bygones be bygones with Bush, but is never unwilling to negatively critique Gore and Kerry, usually embedded in verbiage that he likes them, but .... which he always seems to feel it necessary to say. Not to mention his unconscionable equivalence of criticism of HRC response on immigration to the SBVT. It shows that he really either has no concept of why outright lies about Kerry's service where he, unlike BC, served honorably and was a genuine hero go far beyond commenting on words EVERY ONE HEARD Hillary say.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 05:55 PM
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34. Where ya been
blm? I was wondering if you were ok.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 05:41 PM
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31. take it to the bank..
just one of the reasons I simply will not vote for clinton, period.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:11 PM
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5. Maybe the Country is over it because they are looking to what the future will be without Bush/Cheney
It wasn't Bill that took impeachment off the table. It is Bill though that can show what a bright future we have waiting for us.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:16 PM
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6. You can't be serious, William!
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 03:20 PM by flpoljunkie
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:17 PM
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8. Yes I can, I don't wear blinders.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:23 PM
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10. Explain, please.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:26 PM
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12. Impeacment is off the table.
The damage has already been done. Bush will be here till his term expires. What good does it do to keep bashing Bush with a new election looming? Since we can't fix whats broken right now, I have moved on to what can be done after Bush has left office. I would say many Americans feel the same way.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:32 PM
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14. Bill said nothing about impeachment.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:34 PM
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15. Maybe because he has no control over it.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:40 PM
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16. Bill Clinton was not talking impeachment here.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:42 PM
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17. Doesn't change the fact that Impeachment is off the table.
If you don't believe me, just ask the SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:45 PM
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18. So? That's not what Bill was selling here.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:48 PM
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21. See post #10.
Still holds true.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:49 PM
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22. See posts #7, 13, and 19.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:51 PM
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How does that change Post #10?
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:55 PM
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26. Couldn't improve on their explanations.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:56 PM
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27. Still does not change post #10.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:51 PM
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23. self delete, double post.
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 03:51 PM by William769
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 06:01 PM
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35. Well one could hope for legal consequences
The executive branch needs some precedent set down so there will be consequences for malfeasance. If we let it go because it's politically prudent, what does that say about rule of law in this country?

You see, I believed all that stuff about the Constitutional nature of our legal system, and I think a lot of other people, both Democrats and republicans, believe in it too.

You can't let abuses of power go unpunished.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 05:44 PM
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33. we know you prefer a blindfold
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:46 PM
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19. LOL!
If this were 1992 and Bill was inspiring us about "still believing in a place called Hope" I might listen. He was cool back in the day. Now...he's a simple reminder of where we don't want to go.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:54 PM
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25. Anyone who doesn't believe that Bill Clinton can still inspire people, does so at their own peril.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 07:03 PM
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36. We KNOW he can - and that's why it mattered that he supported Bush so much
from 2001-2006 on the biggest issues of the 2002 and 2004 election cycles, terrorism and Iraq war.

And why it mattered so much that Bill just happened to FORGET during his 2004 book tour and the many interviews he praised Bush that John Kerry was the top lawmaker in DC on the tracking of terror networks and their funding and had been throughout Bill's terms and had been doing so since the 80s.

Gee.....wonder why.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:16 PM
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7. Tin ear gotcha, bill?
Yeah, out to pasture.

Is bashing equated to trying to get our country back with an intelligent president who won't enable bushits with cover-up?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:31 PM
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13. Yeah...let's move on...Bush or Clinton...you have a choice!


:sarcasm:
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:53 PM
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24. If Rudy is running as "Bush on steroids", then it's really not over, is it?
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:14 PM
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29. Wow...
Sorry Bill, but I am not over torture, habeas corpus, the Bill of Rights, privacy, war crimes, illegal invasions/occupations, war profiteering, cronyism, and every other anti-American, illegal act taken and still being taken by Bush et al. :mad:

Fuck you, and fuck anyone who cautions us to forget about or move on from what has been going on for the past 7+ years.

We did that after Watergate. We did that after Iran Contra. And because of that, we are faced with the very same cockroach infestation we've been dealing with for over 20 years.

It's time to bring out the old Roach Motel, Bill. I'm sorry you don't seem to get that. But then, some of those roaches appear to be your new best friends. :mad:
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:46 PM
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30. exactly
How can we "get over it" before anything is done to reverse and repair the damage they caused? Get over it? Is he serious? I have felt great affection for this man but I completely disagree with this sentiment.

They are war criminals. They have bleed the treasury dry. America's reputation needs serious repair and you can't do that without acknowleging what has happened. They've have attempted to make this a dicatorship. How can any patriotic American just get over it without making sure it remains a Democracy?

He has sold his soul for his wife's campaign. It's sad. :(
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 05:43 PM
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32. just like iran/contra..
time to move on, folks. FUCK THAT!!!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 07:11 PM
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37. Your subject line is not even close to what Bill meant. How about adding his previous sentence. nt
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 07:14 PM
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38. This came from the linked article. There is no previous sentence.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 07:42 PM
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39. From article:
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 07:48 PM by lyonn

"Yeah, Bush and Cheney," he said. "I could sit here all night and make you laugh and cry and stand up and cheer talking about the president and the vice president. But the country is over that. Let's get the show on the road again."

Attack or bash, they both work about the same.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:19 PM
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40. Yup, that's the line that I was referring to when I said "previous sentence"
It makes all the difference when that line is included. thanks
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:30 PM
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41. This is exactly what I originally posted. Nothing was left out.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:40 AM
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42. My apologies
...brain cramp here. :)
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