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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:13 PM
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Hillary fans and Iowa residents, you heard it here FIRST!!!

I just heard (from an un-named reliable source) Hillary will choose Tom Vilsack for a running mate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Vilsack
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:15 PM
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1. But, But, But
When did he become a foreign policy expert?
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:19 PM
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9. Foreign Policy "expert" simply means
someone who falls in line with the accepted way of doing things. Hillary doesn't want anyone to outshine her, and really both Richardson and Clark would outshine her foreign policy credentials. Obama is too much of a big name, and Edwards has already been chosen as a VP candidate and you see how well that turned out. Besides, I'm sensing a lot of bad blood between Edwards/Obama and Clinton right now. So she probably wouldn't choose them anyway.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:32 PM
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14. I would off myself if I lived in such a warped world. Gross, sick and sad
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 09:48 PM by durrrty libby
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:36 PM
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46. I've heard this theory before
about how she doesn't want someone on the ticket to outshine her. But you know its not like she will be debating the person on her ticket, I think there are other more important factors to consider, like is it a credible ticket period in some of the red states, than whether the VP has too many credentials in foreign policy.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:34 PM
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16. There is help for stutterers
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:24 PM
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33. Thank God
But what about disenfranchisementitis?
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:15 PM
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2. Hey, Steve!
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 09:17 PM by CaliforniaPeggy
Time will tell, won't it?

:hi:

On edit: I hear from a knowledgable Ohio friend of mine that Strickland is on the short list!

We'll see!
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NEOhiodemocrat Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:30 PM
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No! Ohio needs Strickland
He is the best thing that has happened here in ages. Hands off.
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NEOhiodemocrat Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:30 PM
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13. No! Ohio needs Strickland
He is the best thing that has happened here in ages. Hands off.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:15 PM
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3. Oh, gawd.
One more reason to support any other candidate...
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:36 PM
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18. Why? He has an amazing life story...doesn't he?
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:16 PM
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4. Won't he suffer from the same "ball sack" nicknames that killed his chances with Kerry?
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:17 PM
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5. Hillary: 50 States in 2008..love her or leave us.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:37 PM
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19. Wow you say the same thing in every thread. Stuck..stuck..stuck
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:17 PM
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6. Sure. And they're saying the same to Clark's camp. And Bayh's camp. And ....
.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:27 PM
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12. This info came from someone OUTSIDE the Mid-West area

I forgot to mention that. I'm headed to bed.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:33 PM
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15. Not the point. It's the 'game' that is often played....especially
by gameplayers.

Bill tried like heck to 'meet' with Kerry over a month ago. Kerry declined - he didn't want to expose himself to Bill's style of 'pressuring' other Democrats.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:18 PM
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7. Yeah. He fits the criteria
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 09:19 PM by Mojambo
Clinton/Unnamed DLC stooge '08!

I still say it'll be Evan Bayh.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:18 PM
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8. I didn't know she won the election
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:38 PM
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20. Poor you
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gorekerrydreamticket Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 02:11 PM
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51. I'm out of the loop as well...who else is in her cabinet? Who is doing the inaugural gown/pantsuit?
Edited on Wed Nov-07-07 02:12 PM by gorekerrydreamticket
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:22 PM
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10. Oh My God
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:39 PM
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21. Don't worry.. There is no such thing
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:56 PM
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25. No such thing as Tom Vilsack?
He was my Governor for eight years.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:15 PM
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27. No silly................god
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:56 AM
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37. Oooooh, okay
:hi:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:19 PM
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28. Did you think he was a good governor or the greatest governor?
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:56 AM
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36. Are there any other choices? n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:35 PM
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 05:52 PM
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52. Don't hold back, tell us how you REALLY feel. -nt
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:24 PM
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11. I'm sure he's on the list
That became clear when he ran to take the air out of Edwards' campaign, and then bowed out to support Hillary when it began looking like she could be competitive there.

But it certainly isn't a given that he is the running mate, nobody knows who that will be yet. In addition, he'd be a stupid choice which is why I doubt he'll be picked.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:34 PM
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17. She won't be the nominee, so she won't pick anything.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:40 PM
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32. Madam Cleo..........you owe people millions
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:45 PM
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50. Exactly
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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 08:03 PM
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53. There's always the chance she'll pick a running mate...
...just to get a boost in perceived credibility.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:40 PM
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22. You are probably correct
He would stand back and let Bill run the show.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:48 PM
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24. "He would stand back and let Bill run the show." Who is "he"?
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:40 PM
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23. That's just a play to shore up her standing in Iowa
which, I suspect, many there will see through.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:14 PM
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26. Ha! I just got a robot call from Tom's wife, Christy
Got an automated call that she and Bill Clinton would be in SW Iowa on Thursday!

Hmmm....:eyes:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:31 PM
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31. It is times like this I would give up VoiP for a day
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:57 AM
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38. Are you going?
:shrug:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 08:27 AM
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40. No. Working....again.
I've missed a LOT of local appearances because of that whole need to pay bills thing. :banghead:
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:47 AM
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42. Me too!
I actually had to miss a chance to go to a private reception with one of the "big 3" in the last week because I couldn't get out of work. It'd probably be a lot easier for people to be engaged in politics if the events weren't held at 10:00am-11:00am in the flippin morning on a weekday!!

Oh well, I suppose I shouldn't complain. This time 2011 I won't have to worry myself with candidate meetings.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:59 PM
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48. And we can thank Tom Vilsack for that!
:applause:
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:25 AM
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60. Damn those jobs!
I don't think our employers understand how much they are screwing up our primary season festivities.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:22 PM
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62. Mine does!
:P

We're not getting ANYTHING done here!

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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:40 PM
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64. Yeah, sure...rub it in why don't ya'.
Mr. Debi isn't hiring is he?
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:45 PM
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65. Well, my salary is room, board and fringe benefits
:blush:

And I'm not sharing!

(But I do like to eat and we don't get paid to 'do' politics!)
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:27 PM
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29. Oh yeah, well I heard...
From an un-named, reliable source, that anything at this point is empty guesses and political hype.

But my source also said not to quote him so...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:34 PM
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34. Well, coming from an Edwards supporter, I guess it must be true....
or not! :shrug:
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:30 PM
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30. Name dropping just before the primary, perchance??
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:39 PM
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35. Well that certainly explained why he weilded such a sharp knife in 04
Lots of folks suspected that deal at the time, if it's true, which I doubt very much it is.

"Clinton/Vilesack " looks really bad on a bumper sticker IMO
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:59 AM
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39. In 2006 the two candidates he supported in the statewide primaries lost
:shrug:
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:22 AM
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41. You heard it hear FIRST: Hillary will not correct this erroneous rumor until January 4.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:09 PM
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43. And neither will Vilsack! But maybe he can get his wife a speaking gig
at the national convention...Oh, wait he did that in 2004 :eyes:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:24 PM
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44. Why should I believe this "reliable source" is reliable? nt
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:45 PM
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47. and I just heard you're hung like a gnat...
but I wouldn't repeat it here.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:45 PM
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49. Well, if you don't hear a rumour by ten AM, start one.
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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 08:08 PM
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54. As if Hillary could be LESS appealing...
Vilsack blows. And I say this as an Iowan. I've had conversations with the man. He's an ass-clown, and that's putting it nicely. And TRUST ME WHEN I SAY THIS: Vilsack won't help Hillary in Iowa in the caucus. He's a nice lapdog for her to tote around ... that's it.

Tom Vilsack: The reason I'm so glad Chet Culver is Governor.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:09 PM
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55. Awww Counciltucky
:hug: We've gotten into a habit of agreeing with eachother.
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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:23 PM
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59. Crap...
I'm agreeing with a Republican.

:rofl:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:21 PM
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61. FORMER republican
:mad:

Kind of like you're a FORMER Iowan!

(Are you back here for JJ? Are you home for the holidays?)
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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:41 PM
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69. When's the JJ?
I'll be home for Thanksgiving break for 5 days (Tues-Sun), and then I'll be back home sometime in early December and stay until early- to mid-January. I plan on catching many a political rally during the time.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:18 PM
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56. Close, but her VP will be K Sebelius. n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:21 PM
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57. If true, I really want someone else
to win the primaries. 100% DLC is too tough to take.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:27 PM
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58. Doesn't matter, she not going to get the nomination
Real people aren't going to vote for her.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:26 PM
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63. Gee, what a shock!
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 01:26 PM by Nedsdag
She'll choose a milquetoast white man for her running mate.

So much for Hillary as being a "change" candidate.

:boring:
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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 03:28 PM
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66. you are surprised?
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:54 PM
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68. I'm shocked, shocked that she would pick a bland white guy!
:sarcasm:
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 03:39 PM
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67. I thought it was going to be Lieberman!
Shock!
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