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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:09 AM
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Democrats are WIMPS
Sorry, but it is true, there is absolutely no excuse for DiFi and Schumer to support an AG that won't take a stand against Water Boarding. NONE. The Rebups are standing by their man, the Dems .
run and hide. It is pathetic and indefensible. A law passed by congress is the law of the land, not the law defined by a rogue president
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:14 AM
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1. Weakly interacting massive particles?
I am in total agreement. :toast:

(Wikipedia article on WIMPs)
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:18 AM
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2. Windows, Icon, Mouse, Pointers?
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:21 AM
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3. no, WIMPS, WEAKLINGS, WUSSIES
There is no kind way to say it. You have a Pres who 76% of the country is against and they still are the biggest wussies in modern times. How the hell do they think they are going to make a change when they are so weak?!

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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:24 AM
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4. No shit.
I thought *my* funny bone was broke.

*sigh*

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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:26 AM
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5. zOMG I CAME IN HERE TO MAKE THAT JOKE
I was totally going to call the Republicans MACHOs, too!

:grr:

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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:28 AM
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6. come on - over 50 views and no defense!
And don't come in with "it is about the Supreme Court! A branch of gov't has neglected their responsibility numerous times this year, there is no defense, and each and every one of them needs to be accountable!
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:30 AM
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8. How about,
"It is intellectually dishonest to use these two particular Democrats--as reprehensible as their Mukasey-support is--to smear the entire party?"
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:33 AM
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9. how about you identify the times Dems in the past year have
taken a principled stand and followed through! I stand by my statement!
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:37 AM
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10. Howsabout the Habeas Corpus Restoration Act?
That one failed to break filibuster on a pure party-line vote.

How about the 9/11 commission reforms?
How about increasing veterans' benefits?
How about increasing student loans?
How about increasing the minimum wage?
How about enacting meaningful ethics reforms?
How about S-CHIP? They're fighting that one tooth and nail.

The stuff they haven't done is the stuff they can't do, due to filibusters and vetoes. The solution to that problem isn't to get pissed at the Dems, it's to elect more of them. Even the Blue Dogs still vote with us at least 70% of the time.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:43 AM
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11. woo hoo!
Joe six pack is all over these!

I still stand by my statement, they should be shutting Bush down, not looking for minor victories. I will give Biden some credit, he has taken a strong stance on many issues, but I do not agree with his statement that "we need a veto proof majority" As for the other leading candidates, (and I include Biden with the top three) I can not cut them any slack, one of them needs to stand up and take a stand similar to Kucinich. The should be shoving the agenda through and make the minority party FEAR any resistance! We are arguing on the Repub terms and that is a joke.
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:51 AM
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12. Yeah, I agree they should be fighting harder.
Certainly I'm disappointed; I wish they would have sent back the with-timelines Iraq spending bill over and over again. I hope they do the same with S-CHIP, but realistically I think they won't.

I don't think it's useful to call them wimps and say they haven't fought at all. I don't think it's true. (Reasonable people may disagree regarding the previous two sentences, of course.) But we can certainly agree that the Democrats could indeed be doing more than they have been.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:59 AM
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13. I partially agree with you
From a Liberal perspective I agree that they have made some advancements. From an American Public view I think they are pissing away a golden opportunity. Now is not the time for reconciliation, now is the time for domination. It is time to crush the opposition and playing by an old set of rules is an extremely bad tactic. That being said, Obama was and currently is my choice, but Biden moves closer to him on a daily basis. And the first guy or gal that takes an aggressive lead should be the candidate we rally behind.

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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:28 AM
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7. How about Conspirators. Enablers. Corrupted. Above all WRONG.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:14 AM
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14. lame kick looking for someone to defend.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 02:02 AM
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15. I can't see how this is defensible.
It's the crassest from of politics. The good that will come from ANY investigation of Cheney may make up for it.
Not too hard to make Pelosi look like a fool is it?
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 06:51 AM
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16. Not true. The Democrats in Congress showed the highest Democratic unity score in 51 years.
"President Bush's success rating in the Democratic-controlled House has fallen this year to a half-century low, and he prevailed on only 14 percent of the 76 roll call votes on which he took a clear position.

"So far this year, Democrats have backed the majority position of their caucus 91 percent of the time on average on such votes. That marks the highest Democratic unity score in 51 years."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1728952&mesg_id=1728952
http://public.cq.com/docs/cqt/news110-000002576765.html

Don't let the media rhetoric fool you. The Democrats have acquitted themselves quite well--especially given their bare majority in both houses, and a relentlessly obstructionist Republican minority.

this 110th Congress has had more roll call votes this year than any
other Congress in history, almost doubling the number under the previous Congress overseen by Boehner
and House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL):
The House last week held its 943rd roll call vote of the year, breaking the previous
record of 942 votes, a mark set in 1978. The vote was on a procedural motion related to a
mortgage foreclosure bill. When the House adjourned on Oct. 4 for the long weekend, the
chamber had reached 948 roll call votes, putting Democrats on pace to easily eclipse 1,000
votes on the House floor in 2007.
Last year, the Republican controlled House held 543 votes, and for historical comparison,
the last time there was a shift in power in Congress, Republicans held 885 roll call votes in
1995. The Senate, which has held 363 votes this year, isn’t on pace to break any
records, but has already surpassed the 2006 Senate mark of 279 votes.
Much of the lack of progress can be traced back to obstructionism by conservatives. Approximately “1 in
6 roll-call votes in the Senate this year have been cloture votes,” noted a JulyMcClatchy report. “If this
pace of blocking legislation continues, this 110th Congress will be on track to roughly triple the previous
record number of cloture votes.”
It’s interesting that Boehner is criticizing the 110th Congress as doing nothing. After all, the House, under
his leadership, met for just 101 days during the second session of the 109th Congress, setting the record
“for the fewest days in session in one year since the end ofWorld War II.”
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liberal hypnotist Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:01 AM
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17. Congress only wants to be happy.
It is easier to chip away at the constitution than have the Repugnicans upset and not willing to cooperate on pending and future bills. "Why can't we all just get along." That makes sense? Right!
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:07 AM
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18. Not "wimps," but COMPLICIT ACCOMPLICES...
Dems are "wimps" just like the Bush/Cheney regime is supposedly "incompetent."

"Bipartisan = a larger than usual deception is being carried out against the populace" ~ George Carlin
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