Who actually does better against Rudy? Obama or Hillary?

Here are all the National head to head polls taken within the last 3 weeks. Hillary as the frontrunner has more matchups with the frontrunner for the GOP Rudy.

Poll	            Date	Sample	Giuliani (R)Clinton (D)	Und	Spread
CNN	                11/02 - 11/04	929 RV	45	51	4	Clinton +6.0
USA Today/Gallup	11/02 - 11/04	938 RV	45	51	1	Clinton +6.0
Newsweek	        10/31 - 11/01	1002 RV	45	49	6	Clinton +4.0
ABC/Wash Post	        10/29 - 11/01	1131 A	46	50	1	Clinton +4.0
Marist	                10/29 - 11/01	1102 A	40	50	10	Clinton +10.0
Quinnipiac	        10/23 - 10/29	1636 RV	45	43	6	Giuliani +2.0
Rasmussen	        10/22 - 10/23	800 LV	46	44	10	Giuliani +2.0
Democracy Corps (D)	10/21 - 10/23	994 LV	45	49	3	Clinton +4.0
Pew Research	        10/17 - 10/23	1607 RV	43	51	6	Clinton +8.0
LA Times/Bloomberg	10/19 - 10/22	512 RV	41	47	4	Clinton +6.0

Poll	            Date	Sample	Giuliani (R)Obama (D)	Und	Spread
Newsweek	        10/31 - 11/01	1002 RV	45	48	7	Obama +3.0
Rasmussen	        10/29 - 10/30	800 LV	45	43	12	Giuliani +2.0
Quinnipiac	        10/23 - 10/29	1636 RV	42	43	8	Obama +1.0
LA Times/Bloomberg	10/19 - 10/22	522 RV	40	43	12	Obama +3.0 

Then there is the matter of protecting our NE flank from Rudy.

According to the Q poll Hillary is in a dead heat with Rudy in NJ while Rudy crushed Obama & Edwards.

NJ Poll (Hillary only)http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x3413.xml?ReleaseID=1110

NJ - http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1299.xml?ReleaseID=1106

I think any of the big 3 can win NY but Hillary is the strongest there beating him soundly while Obama and Edwards are in dead heats with him. The same thing with PA, Hillary winning with Edwards and Obama in dead heats with Rudy.

NY - http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1318.xml?ReleaseID=1108

PA - http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x2882.xml?ReleaseID=1109

Clinton outperforms Obama vs Rudy in FL (Hillary & Rudy have seesawed in the lead within the MOE) and is about the same as Edwards in FL. (see PA poll)

All Q polls here - http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x271.xml

Survey USA shows that while Hillary destroys Rudy in MA, Obama has him by about 6. She also destroys Rudy in CA while Obama is again up by 5 or so.

Unfortunately the only head to head polling of some Southern/Midwestern states is from early Oct.

But Hillary outperforms Obama vs. Rudy in FL, OK, VA, NM, & AL. Obama outperforms her in MO & KS. Though in some of those matchups both are losing handily.

All survey USA poll here - http://www.surveyusa.com/electionpolls.aspx

The primary is about the preference of DEMOCRATS. Making it about anything else is disgusting, wrong, and untrue to anything we are.

You are saying the votes of independents and Republicans matter more than ours. You are saying what we want doesn't matter, only what they want.

Stuff it in an orifice.

I am countering the meme that Hillary is poison in the GE or unelectable that is being pushed to get Democrats to vote against her.

Why some on here continue to buy into this is beyond me.

For example, say I'm a Hillary supporter and want to knock down Obama a few notches. How would I vote in this poll? Or say I was a Republican that wanted to pump up Hillary's numbers (for whatever reason). How would I vote in this poll?